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Batchelor Family ((Query))--NL to add marriage

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:21 am
by WP&JP
Hi All I have found the following information on the Batchelor family living in Dankin Street and think this may be the parents of John Batchelor who was living in the same street in 1881.....Please see BCC entries for Batchelor

Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas BATCHELOR Head M Male 48 Leigh, Worcester, England Stocktaker (I)
Elizabeth BATCHELOR Wife M Female 49 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
Anne BATCHELOR Daur U Female 16 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England Scholar
Mary BATCHELOR Daur Female 14 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England Domestic Servant
Alice BATCHELOR Daur Female 18 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England Pupil Teacher
Lizzie BATCHELOR Daur Female 6 Tipton, Stafford, England Scholar
Emma BATCHELOR Daur U Female 25 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England Domestic Servant
Source Information:
Dwelling Dankin Street
Census Place Tipton, Stafford, England
Family History Library Film 1341687
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2865 / 53
Page Number 48
Thank you WP

Re: Batchelor Family

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:36 am
by Northern Lass
not sure that thomas is the father of John

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =625949094

no father is on marriage
but in 1891 he is bro in law here...

1891 : 17, New Street, Kingswinford, Staffordshire
Thomas Collins, Head, 40, Clay Temperer, Brick Yard Born in Stourprt, Worcs
Mary E Collins, Wife, 28, Born in Amblecote
John Thomas, Son, 16, , Clay Temperer, Brick Yard
Joseph Collins, Son, 13, Scholar
Frederick Collins, Son, 11, Scholar
Annie Collins, Daur, 8 Scholar
William Collins, Son, 4 Scholar
John Batchelor, Brother in Law, 40 (Married) Ironworker, Stocktaker
All Others Born in Kingswinford

and here is marriage for thomas collins and Mary Batchelor
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =298255745

1 Jun 1874 St Andrew Dudley
Thomas COLLINS M B Brick Worker Kingswinford Father John Collins Nailer
Mary Elizabeth BATCHELOR M S Kingswinford Father John Batchelor Stock Taker
Wit; John Thomas Wall Mary Ann Wall

he calls his kids john and Richard

so I think it does look ok for John to be son of John and martha

thomas may be an uncle?

:?

Re: Batchelor Family ((Query))

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:29 pm
by gardener
This is John in the 1881

John Bachelor 28 Amblecote Stockbroker
Hannah ditto 23 Amblecote
Annie ditto dau 4 Amblecote

6 Dankin St, Tipton
RG11 2865/52

There is this in the 1861
Bottom of Delph Lane, Brierley Hill
Thomas Crow head 60
Elizabeth Crow wife 50
Thomas Batchelor s in l 29
Elizabeth ditto wife 29
Emma gdau 5
John ditto g son 3
Caroline ditto gdau 1

Emma would fit with Emma 25, daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth in 1881, and Thomas and Elizabeth's ages fit fine. Might be worth looking at the 1881 image to see if John Batchelor is 28 or perhaps 23?

Re: Batchelor Family ((Query))

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:52 pm
by gardener
:roll:
That 1861 group is here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... lor-Family
only the 3 yearold is down as Julia A Batchelor grandson

which seems to line with Julia Ann aged 13 in 1871 so it can't be John at all.

Re: Batchelor Family ((Query))

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:07 pm
by gardener
Now that I have you all confused....

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... lor-Family
21 February 1848 All Saints, Sedgley
John Bachelor, FA, B, Labourer, Shavers End, Richard Bachelor, Carpenter
Martha Bache, FA, S, Shavers End, David Bache, Bricklayer
Wit: Joseph Bachelor, Myra Bachelor

From IGI
John Bachelor bpt 1822, at Leigh with Bransford, parents Richard and Elizabeth
Thomas ditto bpt 1832, ditto, ditto

Perhaps they connect like that? Might be worth checking the marriage for Thomas and Elizabeth Crow, see if his father is Richard? Old Swinford, 25th Feb 1854.

This would make Thomas the uncle of the John nextdoor in 1881 (I think).

Re: Batchelor Family ((Query))

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:29 pm
by Northern Lass
1854
CROW Elizabeth BATCHELOR Thomas Oldswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 003/004/458

Re: Batchelor Family ((Query))

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:13 pm
by Northern Lass
father is Richard for Thomas I have connected and yet to add marriage

Re: ARC TBC.............Batchelor Family ((Query))

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:02 am
by WP&JP
Thank you for taking the time to look
information very helpful

WT