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Richard WHITE ( born abt 1835 Tipton)--NL adding

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:43 pm
by expat66
NL here is some info on Richard WHITE ( spin off from Sam HOMER thread)
.....first of all ... back tracking a bit.. and going back through time....

On that Sam HOMER thread ... Sam is living with Eliza Jane JONES a widow on the 1891 census

100D Gt Bridge St, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Eliza Jane JONES(35) widow born Tipton,
children..Joseph(15) shearing iron at the rolls..born Hednesford,
Edith(12) , Edward(8) & Sophia(6) all born Tipton,
Emily(2) born W. Brom,
boarder Samuel HOMER(39)single iron puddler born W.Brom

I have this marriage for Eliza Jane
6 Feb 1876....St Thomas Dudley
Edward JONES (23) bachelor....miner...resident Dudley, father Edward JONES (miner)....bride Eliza Jane WHITE(20) spinster... resident Dudley...father Richard WHITE (boatloader)..... witnesses William TAYLOR & Emma WHITEHOUSE

For 1871 ... I have
2 Old Cross St, Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Richard WHITE(37) labourer at iron works,
wife Jane (35) dressmaker,
kids Eliza(14), William(13), George(12), Sarah(9), James(7), Noah(6), Alfred(5), Alice(4mths) all born Tipton

1861
Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Richard WHITE(26) labourer,
wife Jane (25),
kids Eliza Jane (5), William(3), George(2) all born Tipton

marriage 3 Mar 1856
Tipton marriage of Richard WHITE (21) bachelor .. miner .. resident Park Lane.. father Richard WHITE (miner) .... bride Mary Jane COLEMAN (20) spinster .. resident Park Lane .. father Matthew COLEMAN (miner) ... witnesses Isaac WHITEHOUSE(?) & Nancy COLEMAN

1851 census
Lower Green, Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Richard WHITE(47) coal miner born B'ham ...everyone else born Tipton,
wife Eliza(46),
kids Noah(20)coal miner, Thomas(18)coal miner, Richard(16) puddler, Eliza(13), Samuel(11), Enoch(8), William(6)

I think the Richard White who is the father in this 1851 census may be this one on BCC?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ite-Family

1841 census
Furnace Row (?),Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Richard WHITE(35) labourer not born in County....others all born in County....
Eliza(35), Mary(15), George(13), Noah(10), Thomas(9), Richard(6), Eliza(3), Samuel(1)

Think that is all I have on Richard WHITE
for now..
Expat :P

Re: Richard WHITE ( born abt 1835 Tipton)

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:50 pm
by expat66
OOps...missed out this...
20 Jul 1856
St. Martin's, Tipton from www.familysearch.org ... Christening of Eliza Jane WHITE.. daughter of Richard WHITE & Mary Jane

Expat

Re: Richard WHITE ( born abt 1835 Tipton)

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:53 pm
by Northern Lass
way behind with bits at mo

but basically we may be able to connect Richard White family up to Samuel HOmer
is that correct?

Re: Richard WHITE ( born abt 1835 Tipton)

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:59 pm
by expat66
Edith Maud JONES ( that would be Richard White's granddaughter)......daughter of Edward and Eliza Jane JONES....

was married on 12 Nov 1899
St. Peter, West Bromwich....... John WITTON (24) bachelor.... ironworker... resident in Great Bridge St.... father Job WITTON (puddler)...married Edith Maud JONES (20) spinster... resident Gt. Bridge St.... father Edward JONES (labourer)...witnesses Noah WHITE and Ann WHITE

I was wondering about those witnesses Noah and Ann WHITE .... would Noah be her uncle as there was a Noah White born in 1878


Also missed out the 1881 census for Richard
3 Old Cross St, Tipton
Richard WHITE(47) lab. on coal wharf,
wife Jane(45),
kids..John(23)moulder in iron fdry,
George(22)lab.on coal wharf,
Sara(18)gen.servant out of employ,
James(17)stocktaker(iron),
Alfred(13), Alice(10), Clara(7), Noah(3) all born Tipton

Expat :P

Re: Richard WHITE ( born abt 1835 Tipton)

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:01 pm
by expat66
Northern Lass wrote:way behind with bits at mo

but basically we may be able to connect Richard White family up to Samuel HOmer
is that correct?



They do seem to be linked but whether this was a formal 'marriage' between Sam Homer and Eliza Jane I'm not yet clear :?
I'm confused about how they described themselves on those censuses!
Expat :-)

Re: Richard WHITE ( born abt 1835 Tipton)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:45 am
by linell
The children are all listed as Son or Daughter Ex Pat is it the occupations you are struggling with :?:


Richd. WHITE Head M Male 47 Tipton, Stafford, England Lab On Coal Wharf
Jane WHITE Wife M Female 45 Tipton, Stafford, England
Jno. WHITE Son U Male 23 Tipton, Stafford, England Moulder In Iron Fdry
Geo WHITE Son U Male 22 Tipton, Stafford, England Lab On Coal Wharf
Sara WHITE Daur U Female 18 Tipton, Stafford, England Gen Serv Out Of Employ
James WHITE Son Male 17 Tipton, Stafford, England Stocktaker (Iron)
Alfred WHITE Son Male 13 Tipton, Stafford, England
Alice WHITE Daur Female 10 Tipton, Stafford, England
Clara WHITE Daur Female 7 Tipton, Stafford, England
Noah WHITE Son Male 3 Tipton, Stafford, England


Dwelling 3 Old Cross St
Census Place Tipton, Stafford, England

Re: Richard WHITE ( born abt 1835 Tipton)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:37 pm
by Northern Lass
Need this marriage as I think we have Thomas White the son on bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =256846145

Re: Richard WHITE ( born abt 1835 Tipton)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:03 pm
by expat66
linell wrote:The children are all listed as Son or Daughter Ex Pat is it the occupations you are struggling with :?:

Sorry Linell.... I didn't explain myself very well there :roll:
but thankyou for clarifying those occupations for me :P

I'm OK with the 'Whites' ... it was the relationship between the daughter Eliza Jane White and Samuel Homer which I am unsure about .... whether he was her second husband or whether they just lived under the same roof?

Expat

Re: Richard WHITE ( born abt 1835 Tipton)

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:07 pm
by Northern Lass
adding this now
well I will when tP fixes the glitch they have :roll:

Re: Richard WHITE ( born abt 1835 Tipton)--NL adding

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:52 am
by Northern Lass
thanks expat added some of this and connected up edith
noah looks like her cousin son of Richard White jnr bro to Eliza jane white

will now archive this one