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Spin off trying to sort out the Troman family.
We have William Troman on BCC.
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... ans-Family

Missing 1861 census is this it?
1861. Garratts Lane, Rowley Regis
Joseph Troman, head, W, Nail Dealer
James, son, 23? 43? Nail Dealer
William, son, Mar, 48, Warehouseman
Elizabeth, daur in law, 50,
Elizabeth, Gran daur, 25,
Mary, Grand daur, 6,
Matilda, grand daur, 2
All born Rowley Regis

Is this 2nd marriage for them?
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1859
NAILER Elizabeth TROMAN William Oldswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 003/006/242

Is Elizabeths maiden name Simpson?

George Nailer
England Marriages, 1538"“1973
marriage: 28 Nov 1824 St. Mary'S,"‹ Kingswinford,"‹ Stafford,"‹ England
spouse: Elizabeth Simpson

1841. Old hill, Rowley Regis
George Naylor, 40, Coal Miner
Elizabeth, 30,
John, 19,
/John Simpson, 81, Ind
All born in County

1851. Garratts Lane, Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Nailer, head, W, 48,Kingswinford

Thanks for the look up Rocky Fowler
23rd January 1859. St Mary, Oldswinford.
William Troman, 46, W, Chain Maker, Amblecote, Joseph Troman, Nail Maker
Elizabeth Nailor, 48, W, Amblecote, John Simpson, Potter
Banns
William signed X of Elizabeth.
Witnesses:- X of Edward Endge? X of Elizabeth ?

Can anyone help with witness names?

Could Edward be Rudge.

The 1851 cenus has a John Wakeman living with them as relative. I think its his Grandfather?
1841 his parents are living in the same household as John.
??
Family search

Name: Mary Wakeman
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 02 Feb 1794
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Father's Name: John Wakeman
Mother's Name: Rachel

That would add up?

Jimmy wrote:Could Edward be Rudge.

Thanks for looking Jimmy. I was thinking Rudge but the first letter looks like an E in Edward?
Would make more sense
Jo

grangers14 wrote:The 1851 cenus has a John Wakeman living with them as relative. I think its his Grandfather?
1841 his parents are living in the same household as John.
??
Family search

Name: Mary Wakeman
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 02 Feb 1794
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Father's Name: John Wakeman
Mother's Name: Rachel

That would add up?

Kingswinford disc
29 Jul 1792
John Wakeman, otp & Rachel Parker, otp
by banns
Wit - Thos. Wakeman & Mary Wakeman

Poss for witness's
Extracted
THOMAS WAKEMAN
Spouse: MARY PARKER
Marriage: 23 FEB 1789 Saint Thomas, Dudley

grangers14 wrote:Thanks for the look up Rocky Fowler
23rd January 1859. St Mary, Oldswinford.
William Troman, 46, W, Chain Maker, Amblecote, Joseph Troman, Nail Maker
Elizabeth Nailor, 48, W, Amblecote, John Simpson, Potter
Banns
William signed X of Elizabeth.
Witnesses:- X of Edward Endge? X of Elizabeth ?

Can anyone help with witness names?

Think the apparent 'tail' on the 'g' in 'Endge' actually belongs on the name below. So to me, Edward's surname looks more like 'Endee' or 'Endor'.

There is an Edward Endor in Rowley Regis in 1851 - with his wife, Elizabeth.

1851 at Cherry Orchard St., Rowley Regis
Edward Endor Head 49 Blacksmith Master employing 2 men b. Gloucestershire, Sidney
Elizabeth Endor Wife 45 b. Staffs., Wolverhampton
George Endor Nephew 23 Blacksmith b. Gloucestershire, Red Brook
Eliza Endor Niece 16 House Servant b. Gloucestershire, Red Brook
George Hooper App. 20 Blacksmith b. ? Dunhampstead
Joseph Westwood Inmate 20 Blacksmith b. Worcs., Cradley

Thankyou
Thats all added from here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =373652130
Archive?
Jo