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John Tromans

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:37 pm
by Northern Lass
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =887932877

1871. Garratts Lane, Rowley Regis.
John Tromans 56. Labourer.
Ann Tromans 62.
Darrel Williams 25. Son in law. Coal miner. looks like Daniel.
Elizabeth William 26. Dau.
Mary Tromans 16. Grand dau.
Sophia Williams 9. Grand dau.
Joseph Williams 4. Grand son.
John Williams 2. Grand son.

All born Rowley Regis.

can we find earlier census pls for John need to see if he is on bcc

Re: John Tromans

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:48 pm
by grangers14
Looking at that 1871 census I think the ages for Daniel and Elizabeth are wrong. It looks to me like Daniel is 32(5) and Elizabeth 36?
Jo :)

Re: John Tromans

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:12 pm
by Northern Lass
grangers14 wrote:Looking at that 1871 census I think the ages for Daniel and Elizabeth are wrong. It looks to me like Daniel is 32(5) and Elizabeth 36?
Jo :)


Changed them

can we find John Tromans pls on other census need to tie him into others on Bcc

Re: John Tromans

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:10 pm
by Jimmy
Northern Lass wrote:1871. Garratts Lane, Rowley Regis.
John Tromans 56. Labourer.
Ann Tromans 62.
Darrel Williams 25. Son in law. Coal miner. looks like Daniel.
Elizabeth William 26. Dau.
Mary Tromans 16. Grand dau.
Sophia Williams 9. Grand dau.
Joseph Williams 4. Grand son.
John Williams 2. Grand son.

All born Rowley Regis.

can we find earlier census pls for John need to see if he is on bcc


This is the only one I can see but they don't have a daughter Elizabeth with them, ages are right for John and Ann,

1861. Private House, Rowley Regis.
John Tromans 45. Jews Harp Maker.
Ann Tromans 52.
Hannah Tromans 25.
Ann Tromans 22.
Mary Tromans 16.
Martha Tromans 13.
Rhoda Tromans 8.

All born Rowley Regis.

1851. Club Building, Rowley Regis.
John Tromans 35. Jews Harp Maker.
Ann Tromans 41.
Hannah Tromans 16.
Timothy Tromans 14.
Ann Tromans 12.
Alice Tromans 11.
Joseph Tromans 9.
Mary Tromans 7.
Martha Tromans 4.
William Westwood 21. Son in law.
Phebe Westwood 19. Dau in law.

All born Rowley Regis.

Re: John Tromans

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:30 pm
by Jimmy
There is one but I can't see her 1851.

1861. Paretree Lane, Rowley Regis.
Benjamin Hackett 54. Nail maker.
Sarah Hackett 49. Halesowen.
Elizabeth Tromans 17. Boarder,
Harriet Jevons 12. Boarder.

Others born Rowley Regis.

Re: John Tromans

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:21 am
by FarSide
Jimmy wrote:
Northern Lass wrote:1871. Garratts Lane, Rowley Regis.
John Tromans 56. Labourer.
Ann Tromans 62.
Darrel Williams 25. Son in law. Coal miner. looks like Daniel.
Elizabeth William 26. Dau.
Mary Tromans 16. Grand dau.
Sophia Williams 9. Grand dau.
Joseph Williams 4. Grand son.
John Williams 2. Grand son.

All born Rowley Regis.

can we find earlier census pls for John need to see if he is on bcc


This is the only one I can see but they don't have a daughter Elizabeth with them, ages are right for John and Ann,

1861. Private House, Rowley Regis.
John Tromans 45. Jews Harp Maker.
Ann Tromans 52.
Hannah Tromans 25.
Ann Tromans 22.
Mary Tromans 16.
Martha Tromans 13.
Rhoda Tromans 8.

All born Rowley Regis.

1851. Club Building, Rowley Regis.
John Tromans 35. Jews Harp Maker.
Ann Tromans 41.
Hannah Tromans 16.
Timothy Tromans 14.
Ann Tromans 12.
Alice Tromans 11.
Joseph Tromans 9.
Mary Tromans 7.
Martha Tromans 4.
William Westwood 21. Son in law.
Phebe Westwood 19. Dau in law.

All born Rowley Regis.


Not much help finding Elizabeth but here's this lot

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ans-Family

1841
Club buildings, Rowley
John Tromans 25 - Nailer
Nanny Tromans 30
Hannah Tromans 6
Timothy Tromans 4
Ann Tromans 2
Alice Tromans 1
Phoebe Westwood 10
all b Rowley

RR disc
Baps
16 Mar 1845
Mary, d of John & Ann Tromans, Club building, Nailer
all the others kids done same day.. group discount
Phoebe aged 14 years
Hannah aged 10 years
Timothy aged 8 years
Ann aged 6 years
Alice aged 4 years
Joseph aged 2 years

Re: John Tromans

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:24 am
by grangers14
Theres this one but as Grandaughter??? And theres a Mary Tromans, grand daur, aged 6, 1871 as a grand daur age 16??

1861. Garratts Lane, Rowley Regis
Joseph Troman, head, W, Nail Dealer
James, son, 23? 43? Nail Dealer
William, son, Mar, 48, Warehouseman
Elizabeth, daur in law, 50,
Elizabeth, Gran daur, 25,
Mary, Grand daur, 6,
Matilda, grand daur, 2
All born Rowley Regis

Re: John Tromans

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:50 am
by grangers14
Elizabeths age isnt right on BCC she is 10 years older than that.

I wonder if it connects here???
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... ans-Family

Re: John Tromans

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:41 pm
by Northern Lass
grangers14 wrote:Elizabeths age isnt right on BCC she is 10 years older than that.

I wonder if it connects here???
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... ans-Family


lost the plot on this one

Jo can you amend it if I have added incorrectly
or if it is incorrect on Bcc not sure which bit is wrong re age for eliz will leave it to you if I may :grin:

Re: John Tromans

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:22 pm
by grangers14
On BCC her year of birth was at 1845. I have now changed to abt 1835 as census,

Re: John Tromans

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:26 pm
by grangers14
You would have thought if that John and Ann had all the children christend the same time, if they had a daughter Elizabeth she would have been done too.
Sp one to cross off?
Jo :)

Re: John Tromans

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:56 pm
by Northern Lass
grangers14 wrote:You would have thought if that John and Ann had all the children christend the same time, if they had a daughter Elizabeth she would have been done too.
Sp one to cross off?
Jo :)



are we adding Elizabeth to that family?
what do you think we do?

Re: John Tromans

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:21 pm
by grangers14

Re: John Tromans

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:05 am
by Northern Lass
leaving this one for mo and archiving