John Siviter b abt 1806---NL sorting

[Northern Lass]

I need him on the 1851 pls

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =216684775

I think he marries Leah Green
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =675153549

I have looked and cant see him on 1851 can anyone find him pls
and do we think same John Siviter that marries Leah Green

[MarkCDodd]

It was John's second marriage.

Groom's Name: John Seviter
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Leah Green
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 28 Sep 1843
Marriage Place: Rowley- Regis, Stafford, England
Groom's Father's Name: Thomas Seviter
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Widowed
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01922-3
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 367833
Reference Number: ln115

[MarkCDodd]

I can't find him on ANcestry, The Genealogist or F.M.P in the 1851 census,

[FarSide]

This one is unmarried
1851
Halesowen Road, Dudley
James Hackett 28 - Nailer
Ann Hackett 26 - Nailer
Thomas Taylor 6
Maria Hackett 2
John Suiter 45 - Unm - Lodger - Nailer (Siviter on image)
Thomas Hackett 23 - Unm - Lodger - Nailer
Mark Hackett 66 - Unm - Lodger - Labourer
all b Rowley

[MarkCDodd]

I would say this is Leah's death so he was still married but might have done a runner.

Civil Registration event: Death
Name: SIVITER, Leah
Registration District: Help Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1878
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 71
Volume No: 6C
Page No: 15

That 1851 census certainly looks like him.

1851 census transcription details for: Halesowen Road, Dudley
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 2033 Folio: 541 Page: 22

Reg. District: Dudley Sub District: Dudley
Parish: Dudley Enum. District: 1M
Ecclesiastical District: St Andrew City/Municipal Borough: Dudley
Address: Halesowen Road, Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HACKETT, James Head M 28 1823 Nailor Rowley Staffordshire
HACKETT, Ann Wife F 26 1825 Nailor Rowley Staffordshire
TAYLOR, Thomas Son M 6 1845 Scholar Rowley Staffordshire
HACKETT, Maria Daughter F 2 1849 Rowley Staffordshire
SIVITER, John Lodger Unmarried M 45 1806 Nailor Rowley Staffordshire
HACKETT, Thomas Lodger Unmarried M 23 1828 Nailor Rowley Staffordshire
HACKETT, Mark Lodger Unmarried M 66 1785 Labourer Rowley Staffordshire

But then there is one of mine who I have not traced much...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/family-tree/bcconnections/115313/77908/John-Siviter-Family

[Northern Lass]

we have Leahs burial here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =394070193

so she puts Birch Hill on marriage too and is from there on burial

I think it is the same one as on the 1861 at plants green with brother abel

if we could maybe find his dau ann rebecca on the 1851?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =667476698

she marries in 1855

[Northern Lass]

who did this John first marry
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =835813988

I think this works as his second marriage to Leah green
father thomas / living with brother abel in 1861

Marriage 27 Sep 1843 St Giles Rowley Regis
John Seviter, of full age, widr, nailer of Burch Hill, Thomas Seviter Nailer
Leah Green, of full age, sp of Burch Hill, d of Nancy Green
X both
Banns
Wit - George Hadley John Breasier

[Northern Lass]

completed sort of on this
thanks all