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Hi. Am in sunny sardinia visiting family but interested in the Isaachar Shakespeare and Emma Smith reference as my research links me to Emma's brother, Samuel.

Looking at Jimmy's tree on BCC I think there is another daughter for Emma and Issachar. I recall that in the 1861/1871 censuses there is a reference to a niece residing with Emma's sister, Mary (Stephens); she is called alternatively Hannah Stephens and Hannah SHAKESPEARE. Also, that there is a birth of a Hannah Shakespeare in the BMD index circa 1853 (Dudley) and I think she married a Henry or Harry Plant. I also recall that In one of the censuses Hannah and Henry/Harry can be found living next door to Mary Smith and her husband Thomas Slater.

Sorry I cannt be more specific but naturally my records are in UK.

I will try to put something together about the SMITH connection with my family but that is probably better dealt with by a new 'thread'.

Ciao

Nailer

I will be interested to follow this thread as it is looking likely that George Smith possibly Emma Mary and Samuel's father was also known as George Ward and George Jeptha.

if these Georges are all the same person it seems that my maternal grandparents had a common ancestors in his parents.

I have this in my notes,

St Thomas Dudley 18/9/1853.
Hezekiah Shakespeare, minor bach miner Dudley father, Thomas Shakespeare (dead) miner.
Emma Smith minor spinster Dudley father George Smith Horsenail maker.
banns.
X of Both.
Wit - Solomon Stephens signed X Mary Stephens.
NB.
Is It possible that George Jepsher-Jepha is Emma's father.

For some reason on the 1871 census for Isachar and Emma, George Jeptha, is down as grandfather, could that be grandfather to the children, or Emma.

I have never been able to find a George Smith that fits.

Also,
13 Apr 1846 St Giles Rowley Regis.
Solomon Stephens- 19- bach- labourer- of Garretts Lane s of John a labourer.
Mary Smith- 22- sp- nailer of Garretts lane d of William a Collier.
by banns.
Wit- John Tromans / Ann Tromans.

1841. Garratts Lane.
Ruth Smith. 34. nail m.
Mary Smith. 15.
Samuel Smith. 10.
Emma Smith. 5.
Leah Green. 25. nail m.
William Green. 8.
Elizabeth Green. 3.

1851. Garratts Lane.
Ann Green.Head. 75. Widow. Pauper/nailer.
William Green. son. 19. Nailer.
Elizabeth Green. Dau. 13. Nurse.
Ruth Smith. Dau. Widow. 44. Nailer.
Emma Smith. Daughter of Ruth. 16. Nailer.
Anne Smith. Dau. 3.
George Jepsher. 43. Lodger.

All born Rowley Regis.

I have Emma Smith with a Ruth Smith in 1841 born about 1836,
Emma Smith with mother Ruth in 1851, born about 1835,
1861 I have Ruth Smith as lodger living with the witnesses from the marriage.

So have I got the wrong mother,

9 Nov 1823. St Giles Rowley Regis.
William Smith- otp- bach.
Ruth Green- otp- sp.
banns.
Wit- Richard Gaunt / Joseph Green.

13 Apr 1846 St Giles Rowley Regis.
Solomon Stephens- 19- bach- labourer- of Garretts Lane s of John a labourer.
Mary Smith- 22- sp- nailer of Garretts lane d of William a Collier.
by banns.
Wit- John Tromans / Ann Tromans.

1841. Garratts Lane, Rowley Regis.
Nancy Green 66. Nailmaker.

Jimmy wrote:

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Hi. Am in sunny sardinia visiting family but interested in the Isaachar Shakespeare and Emma Smith reference as my research links me to Emma's brother, Samuel.

Looking at Jimmy's tree on BCC I think there is another daughter for Emma and Issachar. I recall that in the 1861/1871 censuses there is a reference to a niece residing with Emma's sister, Mary (Stephens); she is called alternatively Hannah Stephens and Hannah SHAKESPEARE. Also, that there is a birth of a Hannah Shakespeare in the BMD index circa 1853 (Dudley) and I think she married a Henry or Harry Plant. I also recall that In one of the censuses Hannah and Henry/Harry can be found living next door to Mary Smith and her husband Thomas Slater.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1876.
SHAKESPEAR Hannah. PLANT Henry. Rowley Regis, St Giles. Sandwell Register Office 18/5/169.

so we need this looked up dont we

Hannah maybe the dau of Issachar

1861. Cherry Orchard, Rowley Regis.
Solomon Stephens 36.
Mary Stephens 37.
Hannah Stephens 7. Niece.
Joseph Price 22.
Ruth Smith 55. Boarder. Widow,

1871. Cherry Orchard, Rowley Regis.
Solomon Steoens 45. Lab. Herefordshire.
Mary Steoens 47. Rowley Regis.
Hannah Shakespeare 17. Niece. Rowley Regis.

Jimmy wrote:West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1876.
SHAKESPEAR Hannah. PLANT Henry. Rowley Regis, St Giles. Sandwell Register Office 18/5/169.

1881.
Henry PLANT Head M Male 25 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Labourer Iron Works
Anna PLANT Wife M Female 27 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Alice PLANT Daur Female 2 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Soloman PLANT Son Male 1 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

54 Wrights Lane.
Rowley Regis, Stafford.

Ok this one thanks to RF for look up is solved
and thanks to nailer for the heads up

Hannahs father is Issachar
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