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13 April 1846 Holy Trinity, Wordsley
Thomas Foxall, OFA, B, Chainmaker, Brierley Hill, Benjamin Foxall, Nailer
Mary Westwood, OFA, S, Brierley Hill, Samuel Westwood, Miner
Wit: Elijah Smith, Sarah Ann Westwood


can we find her on 1841 pls need dob and see if father on Bcc already

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Any good

1841 England Census
about Mary Westwood
Name: Mary Westwood
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Female
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Rowley Regis
Hundred: North Seisdon
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Rowley Regis
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 997
Book: 4
Folio: 9
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
James Westwood 35
Ann Westwood 30
Mary Westwood 12
Eliza Westwood 9
William Westwood 6
Phebe Westwood 3

Poss.?

1841 at Bromsgrove, Kidderminster
Samuel Westwood 35 Clay m.
Sarah Westwood 36
Mary Ann Westwood 10
James Westwood 8
Samuel Westwood 6
Henry Westwood 1
All born in county

Nup, not this one. She's still with her family in 1851

Any bapts for a Mary Westwood with father Samuel?

and maybe sister Sarah Ann who is wit at marys wedding

do we have the couple on census after marriage pls
any clues as to her family there

??

1851. Turnpike Road, Lye
Thomas Foxall, head, 25, Chain maker, Lye
Mary, wife, 21, Hay Green
Martha, daur, 3, Hell Bank
Benjamin, son, 11 months, Lye

1861. Lye, Worcester
Thomas Foxall, head, 34, Coal Dealer
Mary, wife, 30,
Benjamin, son, 10,
Samuel, son, 8,
William, son, 6
Thomas, son, 4,
Martha, daur, 12,
Mary, daur, 10 m

1871. The Hayes, Wollescote
Thomas Foxall, head, 47, Chain maker and victualler
Mary, wife, 42,
Samuel, son, 18, Coal miner
William, son, 16, Coal miner
Thomas, son, 14, Coal miner
Hannah, daur, 10
All born Lye

1881. Balds Lane, Wollescote
Thomas Foxall, head, W, 55, Chain maker
Thomas, son, 22, Bricklayers labourer
John, son, 16, Horse driver
Hannah, daur, 20,
Edger, grandson, 5 m
All born Lye

??
1851 says she is born Hay green?

1841. Hay Green, Old Swinford
Samuel Westwood, 40, Miner
Nancy, 45,
Sarah Ann, 15,
All born County

not sure on this one
so unless anyone wishes to run and add going to flag to archive

Thomas and Marys son on census is born and living in Lye.

1841. Lye, Old Swinford
Benjamin Foxall, 40, Nailer
Thomas, 15,
Hannah, 7,
Gideon, 4,
All born in County

I will look into it and add what I can
Jo

This is Marie's family as well, Mary Westwood her gg.grandmother and we have copy of marriage cert mentioned at begining.

Have experienced difficulty finding Mary on 1841 census, have copied below our notes, dont know whether they are meaningful:

"In an attempt to find Mary Westwood on 1841 census there is a Mary aged 14, living with Sarah Robins 70 & Elizabeth Bashfield (as written but possibly should be Bashford) 60 at Hay Green. Next door was Issac Westwood 15 (we think mistake should be 18) & Mary Ann 20. Isaac married Mary Webb at Dudley 1840. Two doors from Mary with Sarah Robins was Samuel Westwood 40, Nancy Westwood 45 & Sarah Ann 15
It could be that Sarah Robins was Nancy's mother. Sarah Robins, nee Bashford married Isaac Robins 13 Oct 1789 witnesses William & Elizabeth Bashford.

In the 1851 census there was Isaac Westwood 27 & family. Living next door to Samuel & Nancy Westwood 52 & 58.

There were following children baptised to Isaac & Sarah Robins at Oldswinford;
John 3 Mar 1790, Sarah 31 Jan 1796, Mary 27 Sep 1799, Phoebe 21 Jun 1801, Hannah 21 Oct 1804,
Susannah 22 Jun 1806,

There was Sarah Bashford baptised to John & Elizabeth Bashford at Oldswinford 3 Sep 1769. There were also the following siblings;
William 20.Nov 1763, Joseph 8 Jun 1766, Mary 27 Oct 1771, Thomas 2 Mar 1777, Mary 25 Apr 1784,
Elizabeth 25 Apr 1784
John Bashford married Elizabeth Knowles 27 Jun 1763 at Oldswinford "

I had seen Isaac near by. The 1841 census was meant to be rounded down to the nearest 5 so his age is on correct on the 1841 census.
I was looking for a marriage for Nancy to Samuel but it looks like there are a few entries for tha marriage, varying dates though!
Jo

12th March 1837. St Marys, Kingswinford
Samuel Westwood, otp,& Nancy Robins otp
Banns
Witnesses:- Thomas Robins. Kezia Robins

further to grangers14 about Samuel marrying Nancy 1837 the child with them, Sarah Ann Westwood and Mary next door are 15 & 14 respectively. On IGI seen Sarah Ann baptised to Samuel & Mary 8 Jan 1826 Oldswinford and Mary 2 Dec 1827 Oldswinford and Isaac Westwood 9 Feb 1823.

From IGI Samuel Westwood married Mary Robinson 26 Apr 1818 Kingswinford

Could the Nancy be his second wife following possible death of Mary nee Robinson

On 1841 census Mary Westwood, living next door to potential father Samuel, is living with her brother Isaac and his wife Mary. They married 25 Dec 1840 at Dudley St,Thomas her maiden name being Webb

On 1851 census Isaac & Mary still living next door to Samuel & Nancy. In Isaac's household is Elizabeth Webb, sister in law 19

To correct something we said yesterday re 1841 census

Hay Green
Samuel Westwood 40 miner
Nancy Westwood 45
Sarah Ann Westwood 15

we said next door but it wasnt. but possibly 3 doors away

Hay Green
Sarah Robins 70 Ind Yes
Elizabeth Bashfield 60 nailer yes
Mary Westwood 14 F.S yes

next door
Isaac Westwood 15 miner yes
Mary Westwood 20 yes

Already mentioned that Nancy was nee Robins and Isaac was Mary Westwood's brother and married to Mary Webb. His age esimated downwards (baptised 1823 so at least 18)
We still think that Samuel was originally married to Mary Robinson and the three Westwood children were per that marriage