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Hi all...my gt, gt, grandadddy is giving me problems! James Bailey was born in Studley Warks in 1842, lived mainly in Gt Alne, Warks. Married possibly an Ellen Coon or Coln? His father may be John..
Can anyone help me find his birth details, particularly his mum's name, and/or his wedding details.
Many thanks
Sharon

Marriages Mar 1867.
Bailey James. Alcester. 6d. 571.
COON Helen. Alcester. 6d. 571.
HARMAN John. Alcester. 6d. 571.
Read Amelia. Alcester. 6d. 571.

Jimmy wrote:Marriages Mar 1867.
Bailey James. Alcester. 6d. 571.
COON Helen. Alcester. 6d. 571.
HARMAN John. Alcester. 6d. 571.
Read Amelia. Alcester. 6d. 571.

Is this the one, is he married Amelia Read.

1881.
James BAILEY Head M Male 40 Studley, Warwick, England Ag Lab
Amelia BAILEY Wife M Female 44 Pershore, Worcester, England Ag Labs Wife
Harriet BAILEY Daur Female 12 Gt Alne, Warwick, England Scholar
Emily BAILEY Daur Female 11 Gt Alne, Warwick, England Scholar
James BAILEY Son Male 9 Gt Alne, Warwick, England Scholar
Henry BAILEY Son Male 3 Gt Alne, Warwick, England

Alne Hills.
Great Alne, Warwick.

Jimmy! You miracle worker! Again!.....
and you're so quick too!
Children are correct (Harriet is my gt granny)
..so James married twice?
Is there a death for Helen..or a birth / death for James in your secret store?

Just twigged...so, his second wife was the witness from his first marriage?!

Jimmy wrote:Marriages Mar 1867.
Bailey James. Alcester. 6d. 571.
COON Helen. Alcester. 6d. 571.
HARMAN John. Alcester. 6d. 571.
Read Amelia. Alcester. 6d. 571.

I only posted this one because you said he married an Ellen, but it looks like he married Amelia, I can't see a marriage on any other sites, so you would need to find him in 1851, or 1861, to see if he his with parents. Or to order the marriage cert, I don't have full access to the census's.

That marriage came from,

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

The Ellen, is just a chinese whisper Jimmy..the only certainties are Harriet's daddy was James, b. Studley, and the family lived in Gt Alne...I'll go census searching and see if it's the same James with 2 marriages, or 2 different James...
thanks for taking the time Jimmy..much appreciated.

I have, James in 1871 census married to Ellen from pershore living in Gt Alne. Children Jane 11, Harriet 2, Emily 1
In 1881 still Gt Alne wife is AMELIA from Pershore. Children Harriet 12, Emily 11, James 9, Henry 3
IN1891 Gt Alne, wife is Ellen again! Children Henry 13
In 1901 Gt Alne James And Ellen A.

Harriet married Reuben Alfred Tarplee 31 Oct 1887 at Kinwarton

As Jimmy found 2 marriages...I'm confused!
Anybody...help!

Sharon wrote:I have, James in 1871 census married to Ellen from pershore living in Gt Alne. Children Jane 11, Harriet 2, Emily 1
In 1881 still Gt Alne wife is AMELIA from Pershore. Children Harriet 12, Emily 11, James 9, Henry 3
IN1891 Gt Alne, wife is Ellen again! Children Henry 13
In 1901 Gt Alne James Ellen A.

Harriet married Reuben Alfred Tarplee 31 Oct 1887 at Kinwarton

As Jimmy found 2 marriages...I'm confused!
Anybody...help!

I only found the one marriage, could Ellen A be Ellen Amelia.

Jimmy wrote:

Sharon wrote:I have, James in 1871 census married to Ellen from pershore living in Gt Alne. Children Jane 11, Harriet 2, Emily 1
In 1881 still Gt Alne wife is AMELIA from Pershore. Children Harriet 12, Emily 11, James 9, Henry 3
IN1891 Gt Alne, wife is Ellen again! Children Henry 13
In 1901 Gt Alne James Ellen A.

Harriet married Reuben Alfred Tarplee 31 Oct 1887 at Kinwarton

As Jimmy found 2 marriages...I'm confused!
Anybody...help!

I only found the one marriage, could Ellen A be Ellen Amelia.

Just had a look and that's how it appears to me

Jimmy wrote:

Jimmy wrote:Marriages Mar 1867.
Bailey James. Alcester. 6d. 571.
COON Helen. Alcester. 6d. 571.
HARMAN John. Alcester. 6d. 571.
Read Amelia. Alcester. 6d. 571.

I only posted this one because you said he married an Ellen, but it looks like he married Amelia, I can't see a marriage on any other sites, so you would need to find him in 1851, or 1861, to see if he his with parents. Or to order the marriage cert, I don't have full access to the census's.

Its a bit confusing having an Helen, and Amelia on the same page.

Emily Bayley.
Baptism/Christening Date: 14 Nov 1869.
Baptism/Christening Place: GREAT ALNE, WARWICK.
Father's Name: James Bayley.
Mother's Name: Amelia.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02483-2.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 557285.

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James Bayley.
Baptism/Christening Date: 25 Feb 1872.
Baptism/Christening Place: GREAT ALNE, WARWICK.
Father's Name: James Bayley.
Mother's Name: Amelia.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02483-2.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 557285.

Thanks Jimmy & Mally..I think I'm more not less confused! Whatya think? wife Ellen/Helen Coon, Ellen Amelia Coon, or Amelia Read!
I'll search these names and maybe get to Warks archives one day!

Ive been looking to see if I could find Jane, daughter, in 1861 as she is showing 11 on census in 1871.

??
Theres a Jane Read as a Pauper Workhouse in Holy Cross born 1860 in Cropthorne Worcester. Thats near Pershore where the census says she was born.

Just guessing though.
I think you woud be best buying a birth certificate for mothers maiden name.
Jo