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ARC TBC - baptism look up/workhouse?
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:53 pm
by trev2010
Looking for baptism of Mary Jane Brocksopp.According to 1881 census ,she was born abt 1862 in whittington Derbyshire. We know she was living in the workhouse in derbyshire as a child.We found a record for this ,but lost it,so no idea which workhouse.By 1881 she had moved to Halifax west yorkshire and was employed as a domestic servant aged 19. In 1885 she married Alfred Churchman in Halifax.This was his 2nd marriage,he was a widower.Also Mary already had a child,Louissa,before she married Alfred.Cant find Marys baptism anywhere and am now wondering if she was born in the workhouse and maybe thats why.Were they recorded elsewhere?Absolutely stuck on this one.
Thanks
Trevor
Re: baptism look up/workhouse?
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:05 pm
by Jimmy
Extracted,
MARY BROCKSOPP.
Christening, 28 AUG 1864. North Wingfield, Derby.
Mother: ELIZABETH HOPKINSON BROCKSOPP.
Re: baptism look up/workhouse?
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:17 pm
by Maths girl
Long shot if mother had gone away to have baby
Mary Broxsup
Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1863
Registration district:Rochdale
Inferred County:Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume:8e
Page:41
Re: baptism look up/workhouse?
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:30 pm
by Jimmy
I don't have full access, so can someone check this out please.
All West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921. (Ancestry)
Mary Jane Brocksopp. 1885.
Alfred Churchman.
Re: baptism look up/workhouse?
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:49 pm
by grangers14
23rd March 1885. St Mary, Elland
Alfred Churchman, 34, W, Labourer, Elland, Isaac Churchman, Labourer
Mary Jane Brocksopp, 24, S, Elland, no father named
Banns
Both signed
Witnesses:- James Luty? Wadsworth Luty?
Re: baptism look up/workhouse?
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:09 pm
by grangers14
Is this the earlier record?
1871. Poor Law Union Workhouse, Eckington, Chesterfield
Mary Jane Brocksop, pauper, child, 12, Chesterfield Derby
Re: baptism look up/workhouse?
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:21 pm
by grangers14
Jimmy wrote:Extracted,
MARY BROCKSOPP.
Christening, 28 AUG 1864. North Wingfield, Derby.
Mother: ELIZABETH HOPKINSON BROCKSOPP.
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1861. The Town, North Wingfield Derbyshire
Henry Brocksopp, head, 60, Catle Dealer Farming 92 acres, Huckanll
Elizabeth, daur, 21, House Keeper
Phebe, daur, 18, dairy maid
hannah, daur, 16, house servant
Samuel, son, 28, farm? servant, Riley ?S ?cliffe
John, son, 26, Butcher and farm serv
William Berstall?, serv, 34, Farm labourer, Ashover
All other born North Wingfield
Re: baptism look up/workhouse?
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:30 pm
by trev2010
thanks everybody. thats her in the workhouse anyway grangers.the famiy at wingfield are different family,seen them before
trevor
Re: baptism look up/workhouse?
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:55 pm
by gardener
Jimmy wrote:Extracted,
MARY BROCKSOPP.
Christening, 28 AUG 1864. North Wingfield, Derby.
Mother: ELIZABETH HOPKINSON BROCKSOPP.
I wonder if that one fits with this marriage?
14 JUL 1864 North Wingfield, Derby, England
George Brocksopp, 24, father george Brocksopp
Elizabeth Hopkinson, 22
So Elizabeth married before her daughter was baptised, but George was not the father.
Re: baptism look up/workhouse?
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:42 pm
by trev2010
Didnt notice that about Elizabeths daughter Mary.
Re: baptism look up/workhouse?
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:02 pm
by trev2010
I found a birth for mary jane brocksop in southwell nottinghamshire in1856 to melicent or millecent brocksopp unmarried.Melicent married george jackson in chesterfield in 1858,by 1861 they are back in nottinghamshire.need to find out if mary is living with them in 1871 census as our mary was in workhouse by then, or if any of her family are in workhouse as well.
Thanks
Trevor
Re: baptism look up/workhouse?
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:12 pm
by BC Wench
Is this still a Brickwall, or have you solved it?
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