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Hi Jan, well done sending for the marriage cert. Am erring on John being brother to Wm. John died 1847 aged 50 so that is only a couple of years out, need to double check if Wm and John had the same Occupations, also need to check any similar children's names. I know that the were a couple of Edwins in their respective families, back in the Parish Records there was an Edward Toy, wonder if they descend from him? Have a look in your Clent Book Jan, see if any of them are in there, other than that will wait on the Marriage Cert.

Linell.

linell wrote:Hi Jan, well done sending for the marriage cert. Am erring on John being brother to Wm. John died 1847 aged 50 so that is only a couple of years out, need to double check if Wm and John had the same Occupations, also need to check any similar children's names. I know that the were a couple of Edwins in their respective families, back in the Parish Records there was an Edward Toy, wonder if they descend from him? Have a look in your Clent Book Jan, see if any of them are in there, other than that will wait on the Marriage Cert.

Linell.

Could my hunch be right then? You see us Toy(e)'s know things.

In fact if you believe in this theory that memories can be passed down via DNA I would be willing to have my head examined to uncover some truths.

Ok let's wait then till we get this birth certif for Wm Tay and see mothers names
then we can try and find a marriage
of course they may not be married John and Rosannah.

do the transcripts for Halesowen say any more on this anyone pls

Name: Hannah Toy
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 21 Jun 1833
Baptism/Christening Place: St. John, Halesowen, Worcester, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Toy
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Rosanna Toy
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04831-5
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 350506
Reference Number: item 1578 p 198

It says da of John and Rosanna Toy alias Tay of Long Lane - Nailer.

Also 25.5.1837 Mary Ann da of John and Rosanna Toy said to be 7 years old of Long Lane - Nailer

Did you get chance to check your Clent book Jan

Linell.

Thanks Lin

not checked Clent book what am I looking for lost the plot now

Any Toys or Tays please Jan, no rush, am off to watch Footie!

Later from Lin.

18 Oct 1595 Clent
John Pearsonne
Margaret Toye

30 March 1795 Clent
Edward Free of the Parish of Kidderminster
Sarah Toye otp
banns

1 Feb 1807 Clent
John Toy bach fo the parish of Rowley Regis
Mary Ellcock spr ots
banns
Wit - James Sidaway Mary Smith x


Bapts.....

30 June 1781 Clent
Edward son of Edward and Hannah Tay

30 May 1784
Elizabeth dau of Edward and Hannah Tay

6 Nov 1785
Sarah dau of Edward and Hannah Tay

28 March 1787
Thomas son of Edward and Hannah TAy Privately Baptisd Christend May ye 29th 1787

1st Feb 1789
William son of Edward and Hannah Tay

24 March 1793
Susannah dau of Edwd and Hannah TAy

15 Dec 1794
Job son of Edward and Hannah TAy

11 June 1797
John son of Edward and Hannah Tay

2 May 1802
Edwin illegitimate son of Hannah Tay


Burials....

10 June 1789
Elizabeth TAy

23 June 1793
Susannah TAy


26 May 1798
John Tay



that is all of em

Thanks for that Jan, think we can presume they don't connect. So ok back to the Wm and John's, I will have another look at the Halesowen Register this week. Later from Lin.

moving this to Brickwalls will update thread and Bcc with birth certif when I get it

Ok got certif for wm

no 496
When and where born: Fourteenth of March 1839 Long Lane Hill
Name: William
sex: boy
Name and surname of father: John Tay
Name surname and maiden name of mother: Rosanna Tay formerly Harris
Occupation of father : nailer
Signature of informant: The Mark X of Rosanna Tay mother Long Lane Hill

can anyone see a marriage for them pls

carnt see owt

Probably Married in one of the Churches not on the IGI, Harborne is one of them I believe. Found Rosanna's bap at Halesowen - 17.2.1799 to Andrew and Susannah Harris. Think this could be them:-

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ris-Family

Also this lot lived in The Hill:-

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ris-Family

Could Andrew above be Rosanna's brother?

Linell.

Is this still a Brickwall, or have you solved it?

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