*Arch pend more info* -HACKET/LAYTON relatives - By Raymond

[Jimmy]

This looks like her birth reg.

Births Dec 1854.
Taylor Ann Maria, Dudley 6c 38.

[Jimmy]

This could be her family.

1861 census.

all born Lye, living in Lye.

William Taylor. abt 1829.
Betsy Taylor. abt 1825.
Ann M Taylor. abt 1853.
George Taylor. abt 1856.
Joshua Taylor. abt 1854.
Mary A Taylor. abt 1847.
William H Taylor. abt 1849.

[Jimmy]

1871 census,

Parents William and Elizabeth.

George Taylor.abt 1858.
Joshua Taylor.abt 1855.
Lucy Jane Taylor. abt 1862.
Maria Taylor. abt 1853.
Samuel Taylor. abt 1849.

[dianel]

Another possible Ann Maria:

1871 Pope St., Wollescote
Jane Taylor Head Widow 54 Nailor b. Worcs., Lye
Ann Maria Taylor Daur Unm 18 Nailor b. Worcs., Lye
Mary Pearson Lodger Unm 22 Nailor b. Worcs., Lye

[FarSide]

Thought possibly this Josiah Siviter was the marriage witness..

Pete
justed added the 1861 census fs found he was living in hagley road hasbury neigboughs willetts, siviter parish link two out of the three cannot find where siviters link in yet

Linell
Witnesses to Mary's marriage to Samuel Willetts were John Parish, Mary's brother and Elizabeth Willetts future wife of John Parish. Witnesses to Thomas and Eliza Franklin's marriage were Josiah Siviter and Mary Taylor. Best Wishes linell.

1861
next door
52
Josiah Siveter 34 - b Halesowen
Anne Siveter 36
Benjamin Siveter 16 - b Northfield
Joseph Siveter 8
James Price 65 - Lodger - Stone mason - Widow
Nailors, others b Hasbury

[raymondhorsey]

Hi

This is all that I can find on Sidney A Hacket

HACKETT Sidney Arthur

[b]England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Sidney Arthur Hackett
Name: Sidney Arthur Hackett
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Leicester (1837-1974)
County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 229 (click to see others on page)


Name Range Search Results - England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1837-1983
*HACKETT Stourbridge 6c 271
** LAYTON Stourbridge 6c 271

First Name on Page Last Name on Page Year Quarter
Hermann Haagensen * Agnes Hails 1907 Oct-Nov-Dec
Agnes Laws ** Arthur Leake 1907 Oct-Nov-Dec

Whilst I can follow Mary Layton, I get lost trying to find anything further on Sidney A Hackett

Raymond

[linell]

1861
next door
52
Josiah Siveter 34 - b Halesowen
Anne Siveter 36
Benjamin Siveter 16 - b Northfield
Joseph Siveter 8
James Price 65 - Lodger - Stone mason - Widow
Nailors, others b Hasbury

Morning all, think this is them in 1851
Hagley Road (078)
Isiah Siviter HD M Nailer 23 Halesowen
Ann Wife 26 Hasbury
Benjamin Price ? 5 Scholar Hasbury

Hagley Road (076)
James Price HD W 52 Stone Mason Hasbury
James Son U 23 Stone Mason Hasbury

I presume Ann Siviter is James's daughter? linell.

[Northern Lass]

Hi

This is all that I can find on Sidney A Hacket

HACKETT Sidney Arthur

[b]England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Sidney Arthur Hackett
Name: Sidney Arthur Hackett
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Leicester (1837-1974)
County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 229 (click to see others on page)


Name Range Search Results - England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1837-1983
*HACKETT Stourbridge 6c 271
** LAYTON Stourbridge 6c 271

First Name on Page Last Name on Page Year Quarter
Hermann Haagensen * Agnes Hails 1907 Oct-Nov-Dec
Agnes Laws ** Arthur Leake 1907 Oct-Nov-Dec

Whilst I can follow Mary Layton, I get lost trying to find anything further on Sidney A Hackett

Raymond

Hi Raymond

Ok just to put you on the right track the Sidney that you mention above is the
wrong Sidney!

I have actually looked up the marriage for your Sidney Hackett and Mary Layton ie I have been to the archives and got the actual marriage register out
and the Sidney you need is this one on this link....

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... and=694532

The correct Sidney is born
Births Mar 1887
HACKETT Sydney Stourbridge 6c 150

The age, and witnesses all check out against the information that we have found.
The Mary Layton that married Sidney had a sister called Annie she was the witness at the marriage
The other sister of Mary is a Lily she married a Siviter and that is the L. Siviter you mention.

So I suggest you forget the Leicester one.....the one we have on the Black Country Connections is the correct one
trust us we aint called the Eh? team for nought

[Jimmy]

Is this the same Sidney Hackett, I wonder.

1911 census as a Sidney Hackett born about 1887, living Halesowen.
in the same household there is a Sarah Ann Hackett born about 1891.

Marriage 1913.
HACKETT Sidney. TUCKER Sarah A. Cradley Heath, Tabernacle Methodist Chapel - Old Hill. Sandwell Register Office. 86/1/29.


Marriages Dec 1913.
Goode Joseph Willetts Dudley 6b 2019.
Hackett Sidney Tucker Dudley 6b 2019.
Tucker Sarah A Hackett Dudley 6b 2019.
Willetts Miriam M Goode Dudley 6b 2019.

Births Dec 1914.
HACKETT Raymond G. Tucker Dudley 6b 1711.
Births Sep 1916.
Hackett John H. Tucker Dudley 6b 1633.

[Northern Lass]

Interesting Jimmy

Who is that Raymond G Hackett b 1914?
what is rship to Raymond Horsey

So why has he got the marriage of Mary Layton down and that as the one he was chasing.?

Cos if that is his line he is chasing the wrong partner for Sidney!
he would need the Tucker one!

which is a different ball came

The mary Layton one is the one we have documented on Connections and it checks out for that guy who married Mary Layton

[raymondhorsey]

Hi All
Thanks for all your help - The Mary Layton is as follows from her birth certificate in my possession 13th Feb 1888 Hagley Road, Hasbury, Mary/girl/Thomas Layton/Bertha Layton formerly Neal/ No 90 in Births Register No 54 Stourbridge in the County of Worcester.

The Hackett Sidney your have offerred look good as I beleive the person Mum wrote to was her cousin (A layton), I am in the process of confirming that with my brother who has the address also,

Raymond

[Northern Lass]

Ray do you have the birth certif for Edith Lillian Hackett?

If so is mother on that Mary Layton?

[peterd]

Is this the same Sidney Hackett, I wonder.

1911 census as a Sidney Hackett born about 1887, living Halesowen.
in the same household there is a Sarah Ann Hackett born about 1891.

Marriage 1913.
HACKETT Sidney. TUCKER Sarah A. Cradley Heath, Tabernacle Methodist Chapel - Old Hill. Sandwell Register Office. 86/1/29.


Marriages Dec 1913.
Goode Joseph Willetts Dudley 6b 2019.
Hackett Sidney Tucker Dudley 6b 2019.
Tucker Sarah A Hackett Dudley 6b 2019.
Willetts Miriam M Goode Dudley 6b 2019.

Births Dec 1914.
HACKETT Raymond G. Tucker Dudley 6b 1711.
Births Sep 1916.
Hackett John H. Tucker Dudley 6b 1633.

hi jimmy facts of newspaper article

http://edition.pagesuite-professional.c ... b76a&skip=

edith lillian c 1908 was born in Lutley Avenue (so he must have birth cert to Know this)

parents sidney hackett and mary hackett nee Layton (proberly of birth cert)

letter address to a l siviter 8 lutley ave halesowen in 1963


now what we have done

wedding found 1907 for mary layton 19 and sidney hackett 20 (parents edward hackett and thomas layton)
witness joseph Taylor and annie layton (mary sister) also sidney mother is a taylor befor marriage


letter l siviter who wrote to edith lillian c 1863 marriage of lilly layton to joseph siviter dec 1924

1911 census show a lilly layton c 1904 with the rest of the Layton family

article also say mary left for Austrailia and father for canada shortly after they split edith was brought up by granparent possibly william and sarah Hackett (so he didnt Know who gparent were ) edith left for austrialia 1928


as for the sidney hackett you found it could be possible a re-marriage for edith lillian father and that how she came across the name raymond g, could do with the marriage look up to see who his father is and also locate edith on the 1911 census i know there two possibilities stourbridge c 1908 she would be down a 2 on the 1911 census.

note ramond also said his mother left little trace about her english family so it is possible she knew her father by sight if it is the one you found and his second wife didnt want anything to do with edith ?

[Jimmy]

I understand Sidney married Mary Layton 1907, but I was wondering if this was a second marriage for him.

[Northern Lass]

I understand Sidney married Mary Layton 1907, but I was wondering if this was a second marriage for him.

this is like a novel this with twists and turns all over the show!
move over Michael Connolly!

nice one lads a second marriage it could well be
I can look that up I think
not heard of that church before