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[Northern Lass]

1891
with Joseph Mole and wife Getha...

William Daniels broth.in.law 30 Lab.
Polly ------- wife 28 Washerwoman.
Alice ------- dau 12 Scholar.--------------------------is this dau of Wm and Matilda Daniels?
Tilda ------- dau 2...................................who is this dau of?
All born Rowley Regis.


1901. 15 Mott St, Rowley Regis.
John Rollason 49. Rivet maker.
Mary Rollason 48.
Matilda Rollason 12.
William Daniells 64. Widow. Father in law. bricklayer labourer.

1892.
ROLLINSON John, DANIELS Mary, Cradley Heath, St Luke, Sandwell Register Office. 20/2/398.


1910
ROLLASON Matilda SKIDMORE Samuel Blackheath, St Paul Dudley Register Office 012/004/441

can we find this John Rollason and wife Mary on 1911?

[rockyfowler]

ROLLASON, JOHN HEAD MARRIED M 51 RIVET MAKER STAFFS MINCING LANE ROWLEY REGIS
ROLLASON, MARY WIFE MARRIED 19 YRS F 49 STAFFS ROWLEY REGIS
SKIDMORE, MATILDA DAUGHTER MARRIED 1 F 23 STAFFS BIRMINGHAM ROAD BLACKHEATH
SKIDMORE, WILLIAM GRANDSON M 1 STAFFS NOTTS ST BLACKHEATH
SKIDMORE, SAMUEL SON IN LAW MARRIED 1 M 22 BRICKLAYER STAFFS MALT MILL BLACKH
living 47 john street blackheath 1911

[Northern Lass]

ROLLASON, JOHN HEAD MARRIED M 51 RIVET MAKER STAFFS MINCING LANE ROWLEY REGIS
ROLLASON, MARY WIFE MARRIED 19 YRS F 49 STAFFS ROWLEY REGIS
SKIDMORE, MATILDA DAUGHTER MARRIED 1 F 23 STAFFS BIRMINGHAM ROAD BLACKHEATH
SKIDMORE, WILLIAM GRANDSON M 1 STAFFS NOTTS ST BLACKHEATH
SKIDMORE, SAMUEL SON IN LAW MARRIED 1 M 22 BRICKLAYER STAFFS MALT MILL BLACKH
living 47 john street blackheath 1911

nice one RF


so what do we think guys
look up on marriage would say father for Matilda
so if that one in 1888 is a Matilda Rollason and yet they dont marry John and mary till 1892 how can she be regis as Rollason
unless she had him with her when regis the birth and had his permission.

I think that is Polly
Wm daniels is father in law

come on what do we think?

[Jimmy]

Did William senior have a daughter Mary, or is this William juniors Polly-Mary.


West Midlands Marriage 1892.
ROLLINSON John, DANIELS Mary, Cradley Heath, St Luke, Sandwell Register Office. 20/2/398.


1901. 15 Mott St, Rowley Regis.
John Rollason 49. Rivet maker.
Mary Rollason 48.
Matilda Rollason 12.
William Daniells 64. Widow. Father in law. bricklayer labourer.

We seem to have another William Daniels born about 1825. with a daughter May.
Could this one be the father for the one that married John Rollason.

1871. Rowley Village.
William Daniels 46. Nailmaker.
Sarah Daniels 43.
James Daniels 12.
Mary Daniels 9.
Thomas Daniels 7.
Elizabeth Daniels 5.
Hannah Daniels 9 months.
Phillis Moseley 18. Step Dau.
Sarah Moseley 16. Step Dau.
Maria Moseley 3. Grand Dau.

[Jimmy]

Matilda Daniels died 1869 so a different William Daniels.


Marriages Dec 1860.
Daniels William Stourbridge 6c 327.
Hill John Stourbridge 6c 327.
Jones Hubert Worcester 6c 327.
Keat Mary Anne Stourbridge 6c 327.
Kiat Mary Anne Stourbridge 6c 327.
Mosley Sarah Stourbridge 6c 327.

[Northern Lass]

Ok looks like it Jimmy....

so do you think that Tilda age 2 is a key?
who is she
on the 1891

[Jimmy]

Deaths Mar 1890.
Daniels Sarah, 61, Stourbridge, 6c, 110.

[Northern Lass]

I have a query on that Alice Daniels dau of Wm and Matilda
dont think she is dau of Wm Daniels snr and Matilda

so if Alice Daniels and Tilda Daniels are daus of Wm and Polly
is there a regis birth

[Jimmy]

Could Sarah be Polly.

Possible late christenings Extracted.

Mary Daniels. Christening: 02 MAR 1868. Rowley Regis, Stafford.

William Daniels. Christening: 02 MAR 1868. Rowley Regis, Stafford.

Parents to both.

William Daniels.
Sarah Daniels.

[Northern Lass]

Alice is not with them on the 1881
Wm Daniels is not with Polly
so is she Pollys dau

1881 Census 45, Birmingham Road Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Ann Perry Head 66 (w) Nail Maker
Absalom Rose son 25 Rivet Maker
Elizabeth Rose dau.in.law 22 Nail Maker born Old Hill Staffs.
Mary A. Rose grd.dau 8mths. born Blackheath Staffs.
William Daniels son.in law 50 (w) Gen. Lab.
William Daniels grd.son 22 Gen. Lab.
Sarah Daniels grd.dau Nail Maker 18 born Old Hill Staffs.
Ellen Daniels grd.dau 13 Scholar
Abbess Daniels Grd.dau 1
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Note Absalom is Abraham on Transcription but Absalom on orig.

is that her....Abbess/Alice gd dau

in which case
is Mary Ann her mother
dau of Wm Rose and Ann
and so Mary Ann/Polly would be the sister of Getha rose
and hubby Wm daniels the bro in law of Joseph mole
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =937606014

[Northern Lass]

That 1881 needs unravelling

is Sarah the dau of Wm Daniels snr?

William Daniels grd.son 22 Gen. Lab.
Sarah Daniels grd.dau Nail Maker 18 born Old Hill Staffs

is Ellen a dau of Wm Daniels snr

that age of 18 would fit Polly

have we got this Wm Daniels snr on 1871 see who his kids are

[Jimmy]

I cant find William senior or junior in 1871,

[Jimmy]

Looks like different famiy.

1881. 94, The Village.

William Daniels 56. General Labourer.
Sarah Daniels 53.
James Daniels 22.
Mary Daniels 20.
Elizabeth Daniels 15.
Hannah Daniels 10.
Maria Moseley 13.

[Northern Lass]

1861 Wm snr and wife Matilda are with inlaws
Matildas parents
cant see em on 1871

and on 1881 Wm daniels snr and son Wm jnr are with the Roses again
Ann now a widow
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =763056902

I think Alice is dau of Wm Daniels

she cant be dau of Matilda if Matilda is down as dying in 1869

so think she needs disconnecting and adding to Wm and Polly

[Northern Lass]

yes she does look death

I am disconnecting her from Wm snr
and adding to Wm jnr based on 1891 cnesus


1869
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
DANIELS Matilda Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/26/2