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Re: William France
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:19 am
by Northern Lass
can anyone find Joseph France b abt 1838 sheffield area in 1871 pls
1881. No 48 Backfield, Ecclesall Bierlow, Yorkshire.
Joseph France 44. Hawker. Mar.
Elizabeth Norton 33. Serv. Unm.
William France 13. Son.
John Norton 10.
Mary France Norton 6
Joseph France Norton 3.
George E.F. Norton 1.
All born Sheffield.
Re: William France
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:38 pm
by Northern Lass
Got Certifs
father for Elizabeth is deffo Peter France
so bit stuck really.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =991313017I think Peter france dies in 1877...if that is really her father.
but gone as far as I can at moment.
Can't see a birth for Elizabeth that gels.
Think she is actually born 1849 ish which is what is coming out on her 2 marriages and on 1911 census
Re: William France
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:32 pm
by Jimmy
France on Image.
1851. Brightside Bierlow, Pitsmoor, Yorkshire.
Edwin Brandle 33. Cutter.
Ann Brandle 33.
Thos Brandle 5.
Peter Franger 29. Lodger.
Mary Franger 21.
Elizh Franger 2.
All born Sheffield.
1861. Sheffield.
Peter France 39. ????????? Cutter.
Mary France 31.
Elizabeth France 12.
Samuel France 10.
William France 7.
Martha France 4.
John France 2.
All born Sheffield.
Re: William France
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:33 pm
by Jimmy
1841. Ecclesall Bierlow, Yorkshire.
Josh France 55. Cutter.
Mary France 60.
Peter France 20. Cutter.
Elizth Marshall 25.
Saml Marshall 3.
John Marshall 3 Mo.
Re: William France
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:37 pm
by Jimmy
Deaths Mar 1871.
France Peter. 49. Ecclesall B. 9c. 174.
Re: William France
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:37 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:1841. Ecclesall Bierlow, Yorkshire.
Josh France 55. Cutter.
Mary France 60.
Peter France 20. Cutter.
Elizth Marshall 25.
Saml Marshall 3.
John Marshall 3 Mo.
This looks promising
and fits I think with the 1871 census where a Samuel Marshall has an uncle peter france with him
not sure on that death....cos if he is on census in 1871 would that be his death in 1871 march qtr when was census in 1871 ?
Re: William France NL adding to Bcc.
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:42 pm
by Jimmy
2nd of April
Re: William France NL adding to Bcc.
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 6:52 am
by Northern Lass
Marriages Dec 1847
Bingham Harriet Rotherham 22 414
COGGIN James Millington Rotherham 22 414
FRANCE Peter Rotherham 22 414
KAY James Rotherham 22 414
MASFORTH Malin Rotherham 22 414
NELSON Mary Ann Rotherham 22 414
Roberts Sarah Ann Rotherham 22 414
FRANCE, ELIZABETH NELSON Order
GRO Reference: 1848 S Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 22 Page 571
so that fits
but I think that Peter is on the 1871 census as uncle so that death in 1871 wouldn't.
Re: William France NL adding to Bcc.
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:11 am
by Northern Lass
1871 Arundall? Lane Sheffield
Samuel Marshall head mar 33 file cutler
Mary Ann Marshall wife 28?
John Marshall son 2
Peter France unm 54 Uncle Knife Hafter
all born Yorkshire Sheffield
I think that would fit with that Samuel Marshall in 1841
so maybe Peter is the one who dies aged 60 in 1877
and maybe the 1851 and 1861 dob is out for him on census.
Re: William France NL adding to Bcc.
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:18 am
by Northern Lass
Then there is this one in 1861 same address for a Peter France
1861 4 Arundal Lane Sheffield
Peter France head unm 44 shoe blade forger
Joseph France father 75 wid.
all born sheffield
so perhaps the 1841 and 1861arundal lane and 1871 arundal lane are all same...that one dies 1877
but the 1861 and 1851 with a wife mary is another one.....ours I think...and dies 1871