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Re: The Mystery of Edwin Toy & Ellen Walford
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:35 pm
by Jimmy
Marriages yes.
Re: The Mystery of Edwin Toy & Ellen Walford
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:42 pm
by Jimmy
I don't have full access but the 1911 census as a,
TOY HELEN. F. 1862. 49. living in the Stourbridge area. Born Kidderminster, married 1881.
Re: The Mystery of Edwin Toy & Ellen Walford
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:08 pm
by grangers14
From what Jimmy found
4 Gaunts Yard High St Halesowen
HAYCOCK, John Head Married M 65 1846 Farm Labourer Worcester Halesowen
HAYCOCK, Lucy Wife Married 14 years F 56 1855 Worcester Halesowen
TOY, Helen Boarder Married F 49 1862 . Married 31 years, 4 children 1 died, Worcester Kidderminster
Re: The Mystery of Edwin Toy & Ellen Walford
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:18 pm
by NickToye
Helen Toy? Doesn't ring any bells with me.
Hmm.
Re: The Mystery of Edwin Toy & Ellen Walford
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:20 pm
by NickToye
Oh I see, your saying Ellen and Helen. Ok, but the DOB is almost a decade out.
Re: The Mystery of Edwin Toy & Ellen Walford
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:44 am
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:Marriages Mar 1881.
TAYE Edwin. Stourbridge. 6c. 183.
UNDERHILL. William. Stourbridge. 6c. 183.
WALFORD Ellen. Stourbridge. 6c. 183.
Wright Betsy. Stourbridge. 6c. 183.
How many Ellens / Helens from Kidderminster married a Toy - Toye - Tay, this census says married 31 years. Which fits with the above marriage.
grangers14 wrote:From what Jimmy found.
4 Gaunts Yard High St Halesowen.
HAYCOCK, John Head Married M 65 1846 Farm Labourer Worcester Halesowen.
HAYCOCK, Lucy Wife Married 14 years F 56 1855 Worcester Halesowen.
TOY, Helen Boarder Married F 49 1862 . Married 31 years, 4 children 1 died, Worcester Kidderminster
Can someone post the link for Stourbridge registration district so the marriage cert can be ordered.
Re: The Mystery of Edwin Toy & Ellen Walford
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:57 am
by Northern Lass
You can order via Dudley online
this is the info I have
I order online via dudley council link for any in the area
but give em a ring to check
http://www.dudley.gov.uk/index.asp?pgid=220751. For 1837-1940 write to
PRIORY HALL
PRIORY PARK
DUDLEY
DY1 4EU
Tel: 01384-815373
or
2.After 1940-date write to
STOURBRIDGE REGISTRY OFFICE
CROWN LANE
STOURBRIDGE
DY8 1YA
Tel: 01384-815385
Re: The Mystery of Edwin Toy & Ellen Walford
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:35 am
by NickToye
thanks, very helpful.
Re: The Mystery of Edwin Toy & Ellen Walford
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:09 pm
by NickToye
Ok, back on the research trail again and need to get up to speed with Ellen Walford again as I am getting conflicting info from other people outside of this forum.
My problem is establishing the correct Ellen Walford. I have BMD record for her born in 1853 - but these census reports give me a different DOB.
1861 - 1857
1871 - 1857
1881 - 1858
1891 - 1960
1901 - 1852
Sorry if I'm going over old ground here, but in context I'm not following the threads.
Re: The Mystery of Edwin Toy & Ellen Walford
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:43 pm
by NickToye
I've just discovered a Probate record which says the following:
Toy Edwin - of 48 Lower Vauxhall Wolverhampton died 12th February 1933. Probate Birmingham 29 March to Ellen Toy spinster and Frederick Seymour Toy clerk. Effects £678 18s 7d.
Not sure what to make of that, it's definitely got me thinking again - but probably creating scenarios in my head that don't exist.
Re: The Mystery of Edwin Toy & Ellen Walford
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:15 pm
by rockyfowler
Re: The Mystery of Edwin Toy & Ellen Walford
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:24 pm
by NickToye
Well yes that is who I suspect is my ancestor, but there has been some confusion as to what happened post 1891.
Re: The Mystery of Edwin Toy & Ellen Walford
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:01 pm
by Jimmy
NickToye wrote:
Sorry if I'm going over old ground here, but in context I'm not following the threads.
Would it be worth following the threads.
Re: The Mystery of Edwin Toy & Ellen Walford
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:11 pm
by NickToye
Sorry I meant that coming back to a thread after a while I have lost the train of thought. In short I've become confused.
Re: The Mystery of Edwin Toy & Ellen Walford
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:51 pm
by Maths girl
NickToye wrote:Sorry I meant that coming back to a thread after a while I have lost the train of thought. In short I've become confused.
When a thread gets long/old it is sometimes better to pick on piece of information and follow that through on a new thread with a specific aim.
Starting with the information you have that is relevant to that point