ARC TBC - The Mystery of Edwin Toy & Ellen Walford

[Jimmy]

Marriages yes.

[Jimmy]

I don't have full access but the 1911 census as a,

TOY HELEN. F. 1862. 49. living in the Stourbridge area. Born Kidderminster, married 1881.

[grangers14]

From what Jimmy found
4 Gaunts Yard High St Halesowen
HAYCOCK, John Head Married M 65 1846 Farm Labourer Worcester Halesowen
HAYCOCK, Lucy Wife Married 14 years F 56 1855 Worcester Halesowen
TOY, Helen Boarder Married F 49 1862 . Married 31 years, 4 children 1 died, Worcester Kidderminster

[NickToye]

Helen Toy? Doesn't ring any bells with me.

Hmm.

[NickToye]

Oh I see, your saying Ellen and Helen. Ok, but the DOB is almost a decade out.

[Jimmy]

Marriages Mar 1881.
TAYE Edwin. Stourbridge. 6c. 183.
UNDERHILL. William. Stourbridge. 6c. 183.
WALFORD Ellen. Stourbridge. 6c. 183.
Wright Betsy. Stourbridge. 6c. 183.

How many Ellens / Helens from Kidderminster married a Toy - Toye - Tay, this census says married 31 years. Which fits with the above marriage.

From what Jimmy found.
4 Gaunts Yard High St Halesowen.
HAYCOCK, John Head Married M 65 1846 Farm Labourer Worcester Halesowen.
HAYCOCK, Lucy Wife Married 14 years F 56 1855 Worcester Halesowen.
TOY, Helen Boarder Married F 49 1862 . Married 31 years, 4 children 1 died, Worcester Kidderminster

Can someone post the link for Stourbridge registration district so the marriage cert can be ordered.

[Northern Lass]

You can order via Dudley online

this is the info I have
I order online via dudley council link for any in the area
but give em a ring to check

http://www.dudley.gov.uk/index.asp?pgid=22075

1. For 1837-1940 write to
PRIORY HALL
PRIORY PARK
DUDLEY
DY1 4EU
Tel: 01384-815373
or

2.After 1940-date write to
STOURBRIDGE REGISTRY OFFICE
CROWN LANE
STOURBRIDGE
DY8 1YA
Tel: 01384-815385

[NickToye]

thanks, very helpful.

[NickToye]

Ok, back on the research trail again and need to get up to speed with Ellen Walford again as I am getting conflicting info from other people outside of this forum.

My problem is establishing the correct Ellen Walford. I have BMD record for her born in 1853 - but these census reports give me a different DOB.

1861 - 1857
1871 - 1857
1881 - 1858
1891 - 1960
1901 - 1852

Sorry if I'm going over old ground here, but in context I'm not following the threads.

[NickToye]

I've just discovered a Probate record which says the following:

Toy Edwin - of 48 Lower Vauxhall Wolverhampton died 12th February 1933. Probate Birmingham 29 March to Ellen Toy spinster and Frederick Seymour Toy clerk. Effects £678 18s 7d.

Not sure what to make of that, it's definitely got me thinking again - but probably creating scenarios in my head that don't exist.

[rockyfowler]

Edwin on BCC ? http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

[NickToye]

Well yes that is who I suspect is my ancestor, but there has been some confusion as to what happened post 1891.

[Jimmy]

Sorry if I'm going over old ground here, but in context I'm not following the threads.

Would it be worth following the threads.

[NickToye]

Sorry I meant that coming back to a thread after a while I have lost the train of thought. In short I've become confused.

[Maths girl]

Sorry I meant that coming back to a thread after a while I have lost the train of thought. In short I've become confused.

When a thread gets long/old it is sometimes better to pick on piece of information and follow that through on a new thread with a specific aim.
Starting with the information you have that is relevant to that point