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Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:29 pm
by Jimmy
Age is out for Ann on this one.

1851. Sedgley.
William Russell 36.
Ann Russell 29. born Sedgley.
Mary Ann Russell 24.
William Russell 19.
Charlotte Russell 16.
Harriot Russell 15.
John Russell 11.
James Russell 9 Mo. born Sedgley.

Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:38 pm
by peterd

Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:49 pm
by Jimmy
Just a thought, Ann Russell may have re remarried after her daughter Ann was born.

Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:01 pm
by Jimmy
West Midlands Birth 1848.
TRUEMAN James. Rowley Regis. Sandwell Register Office. RR/12/170.

West Midlands Birth 1849.
TROMANS James, Rowley Regis, Sandwell Register Office, RR/13/164.

Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:40 pm
by peterd
Maureen are these benjamin and mabel kids ?


Births Mar 1914
DARWIN Marjorie Trueman Aston 6d 1177

Births Sep 1916
Darwin Harry W Trueman Aston 6d 1129

Births Dec 1921
Darwin Mabel O Trueman Aston 6d 1054

Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:49 pm
by maureen41
Yes they are and Harry William is my son-in-laws grandfather who married Margaret Washborn
Thanks for finding all that info out.

Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:06 pm
by peterd
maureen ive entered your family on the bcc tree here the link

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =218278058

Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:48 am
by maureen41
thanks for doing that, by the way I have found a Richard Derbyshire married to a Martha Skelding on other pages in BCC

Re: Troman Brick wall

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:09 am
by Northern Lass
rockyfowler wrote:Sep 1912
Darwin Benjamin M Trueman Aston 6d 573
Stanley Harry Staphens Aston 6d 573
STEPHENS Florence L A Stanley Aston 6d 573
TRUEMAN Mabel B Darwin Aston 6d 573


Hi maureen can you give us all the details on this marriage pls :-)

Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:03 am
by Northern Lass
Northern Lass wrote:There is this one but not sure

1851 Dudley Port Tipton
William Troman 27 labourer b Dudley
Ann Troman 25
James Troman 2


1861 Dudley Wood Tipton
William Troman 37 h m Labourer in Iron mines B Staffs Rowley
Ann M Troman 36
James Troman 13
Ann Troman 8
William Troman 7
Thomas Troman 3
Joseph Troman 1
all others born Tipton


1871. 47 Burnt Tree. Tipton.
William Surman 48. Lab. looks like Truman on image.
Ann M Surman 47.
Ann Surman 19.
William Surman 16.
Thomas Surman 13.
Mary Surman 7.
Joseph Bowen 21. Son in law.
Ann Russell 66. Widow.

1881. 47 Burnt Tree. Tipton.
William Truman 59. Iron Stone Burner. Rowley.
Ann M. Truman 58. Tipton.
Thomas Truman 23. Son. Mar.
Alice J. Truman 20. wife.
George T. Truman 1. Grandson.
Ann Russell 77. Mother in law.


I think this is William on the census

need Ann M's maiden name

just adding the census on him to this thread

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =139803638

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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:12 am
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:This one.

1841. Tippetty Green, RR.
James Truman 70. Labourer. P.
Jane Truman 50. Not born in county.
William Truman 15. Nailer.


so that is the one for that bapt at RR

is that our William?

Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:22 am
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:Age is out for Ann on this one.

1851. Sedgley.
William Russell 36.
Ann Russell 29. born Sedgley.
Mary Ann Russell 24.
William Russell 19.
Charlotte Russell 16.
Harriot Russell 15.
John Russell 11.
James Russell 9 Mo. born Sedgley.


What are the relationships on this lot

cos that James is prob then the one bapt at coseley to ann single woman
:(

Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:37 am
by Jimmy
they are all down as daughters to William and Ann.
1851.
William Russell 36. could be 56.
Ann Russell 29. it looks daur but altered from wife.
Mary Ann Russell 24. Daur.
William Russell 19. son.
Charlotte Russell 16. dau.
Harriot Russell 15. son
John Russell 11. son.
James Russell 9 Mo. son.

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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:46 am
by Jimmy
This looks like the same family as 1851.
Seem to be in the same house.
1841. Bilston.
Wm Russell 45. Ag lab.
Sarah Russell 18.
Ann Russell 20.
Mary Ann Russell 15.
Elizabeth Russell 12.
Mar Russell 10.
/
Charlotte Russell 7.
Harriott Russell 4.
John Russell 1.
James Russell 73. Labourer.

Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:48 am
by Northern Lass
Ok so that is not our James Russell aged 2 in 1851

so we can discount that bapt at Coseley in 1850 :(