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Re: Abel Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:00 pm
by FarSide
Uriah son of Solomon
1871
Cherry Orchard, Rowley
Uriah Tromans 22 - Chainmaker
Johannah Tromans 21 - Nailmaker
Solomon Tromans 1
all b Rowley

1881 16 Cherry Orchard Rowley Regis, Stafford

Uriah TROMANE 32 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chainmaker
Johanah TROMANE 28 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Soloman TROMANE 11 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Jane TROMANE 9 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Benjamin TROMANE 7 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Felix TROMANE 4 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Zillah TROMANE 1 Rowley Regis, Stafford,


1891
49 Elbow Street, Rowley
Uriah Tromans 42 - Chainmaker
Joanna Tromans 38
Jane Tromans 19 - Chainmaker
Benjamin Tromans 16 - Chainmaker
Zillah Tromans 11
John Tromans 7
Elizabeth Tromans 5
Fanny Tromans 7/12
all b Rowley

next door # 48 - not sure if related
Naboth Tromans 22 - Gas hook maker
Martha Tromans 25 - Gas hook maker
May Tromans 10/12
all b Rowley

1901
49 Elbow Street, Rowley
Uriah Tromans 52 - Chainmaker - b Dudley
Joannah Tromans 49 - Chainmaker
John Tromans 17
Elizabeth Tromans 15
Fanny Tromans 10
others b Old Hill

Re: Abel Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:25 pm
by FarSide
Poss marriage of Abel's sister Susan b 1820

Submitted
SUSAN TRUEMAN
Marriages:
Spouse: WILLIAM CLIFT
Marriage: 13 JUN 1841 Old Swinford, Worcester

1841
TRUEMAN Susan CLIFT William Oldswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 003/002/30

Re: Abel Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:29 pm
by peterd
felix c 1833

1881; 214 Halesowen Rd, Rowley Regis, Stafford

Felix TROMANS 48 Dudley, Worcester, Warehouseman (Chain)
Rossana TROMANS 49 Rowley Regis, Stafford,



http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =601068250



any more census please

Re: Abel Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:31 pm
by peterd
poss felix srn 2nd marriage ?

TROMANS Felix COX Elizabeth 1884 Dudley, St Edmund West Midlands Dudley Register Office 201/008/55


any census please

Re: Abel Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:33 pm
by peterd
cheers fs

FarSide wrote:Poss marriage of Abel's sister Susan b 1820

Submitted
SUSAN TRUEMAN
Marriages:
Spouse: WILLIAM CLIFT
Marriage: 13 JUN 1841 Old Swinford, Worcester

1841
TRUEMAN Susan CLIFT William Oldswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 003/002/30



28 Oct 1850 Christ church Oldbury
-Felix Tromans- of full age- bach- chainmaker- Oldbury- Thomas Tromans- chainmaker
-Rosanna Jeavons- of full age- spinster- Oldbury- daniel Jeavons- nailer
banns
Felix signed X Rosannah
Wit- William Clift and Jason? Clift


felix 1st marriage wonder if thats susan instead of jason ?

i think so any census anyone

Re: Abel Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:43 pm
by FarSide
1851
New Town, Dudley
Felix Trowmans 18 - Chainmaker - b Dudley wood
Rosannah Trowmans 20 - Chainmaker - b Rowley

living next door
1851 NEW TOWN DUDLEY

TROWMAN, Thomas Head Married M 64 1787 Trace Maker Rowley Staffordshire
TROWMAN, Mary Wife Married F 63 1788 Trace Maker Rowley Staffordshire
TROWMAN, Sylvia Daughter Unmarried F 41 1810 Trace Maker Rowley Staffordshire
FAULKNER, Job Lodger Unmarried M 18 1833 Chain Maker Rowley Staffordshire


1861
Old Hill, Rowley
Elbow Street next entry
Felix Tromans 35 - Chainmaker - b Dudley
Rosehannah Tromans 30 - Chainmaker - b Rowley
Thomas Jones 15 - Apprentice - Chainmaker app - b Brierly Hill
Selina Jeavons 17 - Visitor Nailmaker - b Rowley

1871 - haven't found yet


peterd wrote:felix c 1833

1881; 214 Halesowen Rd, Rowley Regis, Stafford

Felix TROMANS 48 Dudley, Worcester, Warehouseman (Chain)
Rossana TROMANS 49 Rowley Regis, Stafford,



http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =601068250



any more census please


poss felix srn 2nd marriage ?

TROMANS Felix COX Elizabeth 1884 Dudley, St Edmund West Midlands Dudley Register Office 201/008/55


any census please


1891
Halesowen Road, Rowley
Felin Tromans 58 - Living on his own means
Elizabeth Tromans 58
both b Dudley

Re: Abel Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:45 pm
by peterd
bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =237900885

poss zilllah marriage

TROMANS Zillah LOWE William H 1899 Blackheath, St Paul West Midlands Dudley Register Office 012/003/372

any census anyone please

Re: Abel Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:47 pm
by FarSide
28 Oct 1850 Christ church Oldbury
-Felix Tromans- of full age- bach- chainmaker- Oldbury- Thomas Tromans- chainmaker
-Rosanna Jeavons- of full age- spinster- Oldbury- daniel Jeavons- nailer
banns
Felix signed X Rosannah
Wit- William Clift and Jason? Clift


Poss sister

1861
Old Hill, Rowley
Elbow Street next entry
Felix Tromans 35 - Chainmaker - b Dudley
Rosehannah Tromans 30 - Chainmaker - b Rowley
Thomas Jones 15 - Apprentice - Chainmaker app - b Brierly Hill
Selina Jeavons 17 - Visitor Nailmaker - b Rowley

Re: Abel Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:59 pm
by FarSide
peterd wrote:cheers fs

FarSide wrote:Poss marriage of Abel's sister Susan b 1820

Submitted
SUSAN TRUEMAN
Marriages:
Spouse: WILLIAM CLIFT
Marriage: 13 JUN 1841 Old Swinford, Worcester

1841
TRUEMAN Susan CLIFT William Oldswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 003/002/30



28 Oct 1850 Christ church Oldbury
-Felix Tromans- of full age- bach- chainmaker- Oldbury- Thomas Tromans- chainmaker
-Rosanna Jeavons- of full age- spinster- Oldbury- daniel Jeavons- nailer
banns
Felix signed X Rosannah
Wit- William Clift and Jason? Clift


felix 1st marriage wonder if thats susan instead of jason ?

i think so any census anyone


1851
Fourways, Rowley
William Clift 31 - Nailor - b Cradley
Susan Clift 33 - Chainmaker - b Dudley wood
Emma Clift 9 - Chainmaker - b Dudley wood
Eliza Clift 7 - b Fourways
Charlott Clift 5 - b Dudley wood
Mary Ann Clift 3 - b Cradley

Poss death
1851
CLIFT Susanne Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/8/471

William remarries
1854
CLIFT William HEAD Abigail Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/1/407

1861
Congreaves Road, Rowley
William Clift 41 - Horse nail maker - b Cradley
Abigale Clift 26 - Trace maker - b Spring hill
Emma Clift 19 - Trace maker - b Dudley wood
Eliza Clift 17 - Trace maker - b Rowley
Charlotte Clift 15 - Trace maker - b Dudley wood
Mary Ann Clift 13 - Trace maker - b Cradley
Samuel Clift 7 - b Cradley
Timothy Clift 3 - b Rowley
Elizabeth Clift 9 Mo - b Rowley

Poss Abigail on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =729851559

Re: Abel Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:08 pm
by FarSide
peterd wrote:bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =237900885

poss zilllah marriage

TROMANS Zillah LOWE William H 1899 Blackheath, St Paul West Midlands Dudley Register Office 012/003/372

any census anyone please


1901
30 Halesowen Street, Rowley
William Lowe 24 - Haulier? - b Halesowen
Zillah Lowe 24
Howard Lowe 1 4 months
others b Blackheath

same address (def Tromans)
Ezekiel Trommer 55 - Widow - Gas hook maker - b Rowley
Alice Trommer 21 - daug - single - b Blackheath

Re: Abel Tromans

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:34 am
by peterd
FarSide wrote:
peterd wrote:bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =237900885

poss zilllah marriage

TROMANS Zillah LOWE William H 1899 Blackheath, St Paul West Midlands Dudley Register Office 012/003/372

any census anyone please


1901
30 Halesowen Street, Rowley
William Lowe 24 - Haulier? - b Halesowen
Zillah Lowe 24
Howard Lowe 1 4 months
others b Blackheath

same address (def Tromans)
Ezekiel Trommer 55 - Widow - Gas hook maker - b Rowley
Alice Trommer 21 - daug - single - b Blackheath




so what relation is Ezekiel to zillah troman ?

1881; 29 Halesowen St Rowley Regis, Stafford

Ezekiel TROMAN 35 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Forger
Ann TROMAN 36 Haleso, Worcester, Nail Forger
Herbert TROMAN 13 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Forger
Walter TROMAN 11 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Forger
Albert TROMAN 9 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Forger
Sarah TROMAN 7 Rowley Regis, Stafford, School
Aurtha TROMAN 5 Rowley Regis, Stafford, School
Alice TROMAN 2


poss marr


TROMAN Ezekiel TURNER Ann 1867 Halesowen, St John the Baptist West Midlands Dudley Register Office 014/003/266

Re: Abel Tromans

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:49 pm
by peterd
split topic

Re: Abel Tromans

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:56 am
by FarSide
Poss - Zillah daug of Uriah

Marriages Dec 1900
Smith John Richard Dudley 6c 150
Tromane Zillah Dudley 6c 150
Tromans Zillah Dudley 6c 150

1901
13 King Street, Rowley
John R Smith 23 - Chainmaker - b Rowley
Lillah Smith 21 - b Dudley

1911
23 DALLOW STREET OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE
SMITH, JOHN RICHARD HEAD MARRIED M 33 DOLLIED TRAINMAKER IRON OLD HILL STAFFS
SMITH, LILLAH WIFE MARRIED 10 F 30 HAND HAMMERED CHAINMAKER PLECK DUDLEY WORCESTERSHIRE
SMITH, SAMUEL SON M 9 OLD HILL STAFFS
SMITH, ALFRED SON M 5 OLD HILL STAFFS
SMITH, LILY DAUGHTER F 3 OLD HILL STAFFS

Re: Abel Tromans

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:24 am
by peterd
FarSide wrote:Poss - Zillah daug of Uriah

Marriages Dec 1900
Smith John Richard Dudley 6c 150
Tromane Zillah Dudley 6c 150
Tromans Zillah Dudley 6c 150

1901
13 King Street, Rowley
John R Smith 23 - Chainmaker - b Rowley
Lillah Smith 21 - b Dudley

1911
23 DALLOW STREET OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE
SMITH, JOHN RICHARD HEAD MARRIED M 33 DOLLIED TRAINMAKER IRON OLD HILL STAFFS
SMITH, LILLAH WIFE MARRIED 10 F 30 HAND HAMMERED CHAINMAKER PLECK DUDLEY WORCESTERSHIRE
SMITH, SAMUEL SON M 9 OLD HILL STAFFS
SMITH, ALFRED SON M 5 OLD HILL STAFFS
SMITH, LILY DAUGHTER F 3 OLD HILL STAFFS


put on for look up will see which one it is as two

SMITH John R TROMANS Lillah 1900 Rowley Regis, St Giles West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 18/9/414

Re: Abel Tromans

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:36 pm
by peterd
can be archieve till look ups done