*UPDATE -links to the threads below- *possible link up ?

[Northern Lass]

What I am asking, was Polly's maiden name Mole, there is nothing to show this for certain.

I agree Jimmy
I will add the look ups tomoz on what I have sorry not done it yet ...Kaye and I cleared loads


what about that Rhoda
could Polly be Rhoda?
do we need one of the kids birth certifs?

who is this Polly
Wm is son of Wm and matilda do we agree
cos I think that stacks
then Wm marris a Polly or mary ann or Rhoda????

[Jimmy]

Is this William in 1901.
8, Elbow St. RR.
William Daniels 40. Coalminer.
Rhoda Daniels 40. born Oldhill.
Matilda Daniels 17.
John Daniels 14.
Lily Daniels 12.
Mary Ann Daniels 7.
Edith Daniels 3.

All others born RR.

So there are two William Daniels then.

1891. 47 Elbow St.
This looks like the one above.
William Daniel 24. coalminer.
Rhoda Daniel 25. nailer.
John Daniel 4.
Lily Daniel 2.
William Daniel 3/12.
James Williams 40. nailer. father in law.
James Williams 20. coalminer. brother in law.

All born Rowley Regis.

[Jimmy]

Did William senior have a daughter Mary, or is this William juniors Polly-Mary.


West Midlands Marriage 1892.
ROLLINSON John, DANIELS Mary, Cradley Heath, St Luke, Sandwell Register Office. 20/2/398.


1901. 15 Mott St, Rowley Regis.
John Rollason 49. Rivet maker.
Mary Rollason 48.
Matilda Rollason 12.
William Daniells 64. Widow. Father in law. bricklayer labourer.

[Northern Lass]

I think Polly is Rhoda....look
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =541287709

if that is William Daniels with Rhoda in 1901 they have a Matilda
named after his Mother surely

1901.8, Elbow St. RR.
William Daniels 40. Coalminer.
Rhoda Daniels 40. born Oldhill.
Matilda Daniels 17.
John Daniels 14.
Lily Daniels 12.
Mary Ann Daniels 7.
Edith Daniels 3.

All others born RR.

So Q's cos I am getting lost on this

How do we know Polly is a Mole?
How do we know Polly is not Rhoda?

[Jimmy]

There are two Williams, in 1891 one with Polly and one with Rhoda.

1891 Polly is in Birmingham St.

also in 1891, Rhoda is in Elbow St.

There is also a Matilda in 1901, that fits age wise.

1901. 15 Mott St, Rowley Regis.
John Rollason 49. Rivet maker.
Mary Rollason 48.
Matilda Rollason 12.
William Daniells 64. Widow. Father in law. bricklayer labourer.

And the we have this marriage,

West Midlands Marriage 1892.
ROLLINSON John, DANIELS Mary, Cradley Heath, St Luke, Sandwell Register Office. 20/2/398.

[Northern Lass]

1891. 47 Elbow St.
William Daniel 24. coalminer.
Rhoda Daniel 25. nailer.
John Daniel 4.
Lily Daniel 2.
William Daniel 3/12.
James Williams 40. nailer. father in law.
James Williams 20. coalminer. brother in law.
All born Rowley Regis.

1901.8, Elbow St. RR.
William Daniels 40. Coalminer.
Rhoda Daniels 40. born Oldhill.
Matilda Daniels 17.
John Daniels 14.
Lily Daniels 12.
Mary Ann Daniels 7.
Edith Daniels 3.
All others born RR.

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1891 Census 55 Birmingham Road Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Mole Head 40 Rivet Maker.
Getha Mole wife 41 Nailer.
Joseph Mole son 17 Rivet Maker.
William Mole son 15 Lab. in Rivet Shop.
Agnes Mole dau 8 Scholar.
Frank Mole son 5 Scholar.
Fred Mole son 3.
Infant Mole son 1week.

William Daniels broth.in.law 30 Lab.
Polly ------- wife 28 Washerwoman.
Alice ------- dau 12 Scholar.--------------------------is this dau of Wm and Matilda Daniels?
Tilda ------- dau 2...................................who is this dau of?
All born Rowley Regis.

[Northern Lass]

Did William senior have a daughter Mary, or is this William juniors Polly-Mary.


West Midlands Marriage 1892.
ROLLINSON John, DANIELS Mary, Cradley Heath, St Luke, Sandwell Register Office. 20/2/398.


1901. 15 Mott St, Rowley Regis.
John Rollason 49. Rivet maker.
Mary Rollason 48.
Matilda Rollason 12.
William Daniells 64. Widow. Father in law. bricklayer labourer.

who is that Mary Daniels?
is she Wm Juniors Polly
as Wm snr doesnt have a Mary on the 1861


1861 Census Rowley Village Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Rose Head 46 Nailer
Ann Rose wife 45 Nailer
William Rose son 20 Nailer
Mary Ann Rose dau 17
Joseph Rose son 14 Nailer
Ellen Rose dau
Gethan Rose dau 9
Absolom Rose son 5
William Daniels lodger 23 Soda Grater
Matilda Daniels wife 25 Nailer
Joseph Smith son in law 5
William Daniels son 10mths.All born Rowley Regis Staffs.

Polly if she is mary her age is out on the 1901

[Northern Lass]

So Tilda is Matilda

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

Mary Rollason could be the widow of William Daniels

1891 death
DANIELS William Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/51/72

so who is she?
1892.
ROLLINSON John, DANIELS Mary, Cradley Heath, St Luke, Sandwell Register Office. 20/2/398

she is not the Mary ann Mole married to Wm Brookes
(those 2 are on the 1891 and 1901 her father is Paraai Mole)

[Jimmy]

So Tilda is Matilda

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

Mary Rollason could be the widow of William Daniels

1891 death
DANIELS William Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/51/72

so who is she?
1892.
ROLLINSON John, DANIELS Mary, Cradley Heath, St Luke, Sandwell Register Office. 20/2/398

she is not the Mary ann Mole married to Wm Brookes
(those 2 are on the 1891 and 1901 her father is Paraai Mole)

This death is for,

Deaths Dec 1891.
Daniels. William. 0. Dudley. 6c. 1.

[Northern Lass]

So what do you think Jimmy?
that could be him? maybe no age on it?

or an infant....
sure I read somewhere that a 0 didnt always mean infant

I will do this look up
see who she is
1892.
ROLLINSON John, DANIELS Mary, Cradley Heath, St Luke, Sandwell Register Office. 20/2/398.


what do you think or anyone else
who is she?

[Jimmy]

At the moment I have no idea who she is.

[Northern Lass]

At the moment I have no idea who she is.

well look if you need any look ups can you add them pls anyone
I am going to blast thru some look ups I have done and Kaye has done...
may be some time

[Jimmy]

I have added these for a look up.

West Midlands Marriage 1882.
DANIEL William WILLIAMS Rhoda Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/037/50


1892.
ROLLINSON John, DANIELS Mary, Cradley Heath, St Luke, Sandwell Register Office. 20/2/398.

[Northern Lass]

Ok they are on

[Northern Lass]

So where are we with this then...in a nutshell or large coconut?

We know Polly aint the Mary that married Wm Brookes so Rocky that answers that one I think

We think it might be the Polly/Mary that married John Rollason as that dau Tilda/Matilda
or dont we?

cos...we do have a birth for a Matilda Rollason
but this must be another one surely as the marriage was only 1892 for Mary Daniels and John Rollason

1888
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
ROLASON Matilda Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/96/236


Birth...1887
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
DANILLS Matilda R Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/92/231

what do we think?
the look ups are on for that 1892 marriage see who Mary Daniels is
is she a widow?
fathers name

would like to find this Matilda Rollason
could that be her mothers name? too?