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Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:26 pm
by Northern Lass
kdwoodie wrote:On the 1841 Census George Easthope is on on page , on the previous page are
David Raybould 50 Lab
Mary Raybould 56
Elizabeth Raybould 25 Nailer
Esther Raybould 20
Susannah Raybould 15
Next door is
Joseph Raybould 65 Nailer
Fanny Raybould 60
James Raybould 25 Chain Maker

So is it the correct Joseph on BCC?


I think this is important...if we know that Ann/Nancy is safe as the dau of Humphrey and she married George Easthope
then I would have thought the david here with a Mary
and the Joseph with a fanny are sibs of Nancy which means David and Joseph need amending
and that means that Joseph marries Fanny
however....the names for Josephs kids that marries diana and then susanna all seem to fit ...

do we have 2 humphreys and prudence....

not sure what to add and what not to. :shock:

Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:31 pm
by kdwoodie
Sorry i'm lost

Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:33 pm
by Northern Lass
I am concerned that what you found on the 1841 with George easthope living near a
Joseph and Fanny

and David and Mary

might be our david and Joseph

which means we have Joseph all wrong....but the names of Josephs kids that we presently have and his wives dinah and susannah
have kids that match names of Humphrey and Michael

Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:34 pm
by Frodo
The information I have sourced via Ancestry doesn't mention that Mary who married Thomas Manger was a widow.

Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:35 pm
by Northern Lass
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =482397443

this is david rAybould who is living near Joseph raybould and George easthope

On the 1841 Census George Easthope is on on page , on the previous page are
David Raybould 50 Lab
Mary Raybould 56
Elizabeth Raybould 25 Nailer
Esther Raybould 20
Susannah Raybould 15

Next door is
Joseph Raybould 65 Nailer
Fanny Raybould 60
James Raybould 25 Chain Maker

Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:41 pm
by Northern Lass
Frodo wrote:The information I have sourced via Ancestry doesn't mention that Mary who married Thomas Manger was a widow.


here on free reg

Worcestershire
Place (Links to more information) Halesowen
Church name (Links to more information) St John the Baptist
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 866
Marriage date 8 Apr 1833
Groom forename Thomas
Groom surname MANGER
Groom parish Otp
Groom condition Wdower
Bride forename Mary
Bride surname RAYBOLD
Bride parish Otp
Bride condition Widow

Witness1 Solomon BRETTLE
Witness2 George G FIDDIAN

Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:44 pm
by kdwoodie
Who is Solomon Brettle ?

Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:45 pm
by Northern Lass
kdwoodie wrote:Who is Solomon Brettle ?

this?

or too late?
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... onnections

Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:48 pm
by Frodo
There is no mention of Fanny on any of the Ancestry hints apart from the 1841 census but David and Joseph by age look like brothers and sons of Humphrey and Prudence. I don't have any information about a Fanny on my tree.

Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:49 pm
by Northern Lass
Northern Lass wrote:https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&pid=174261&randi=482397443

this is david rAybould who is living near Joseph raybould and George easthope

On the 1841 Census George Easthope is on on page , on the previous page are
David Raybould 50 Lab
Mary Raybould 56
Elizabeth Raybould 25 Nailer
Esther Raybould 20
Susannah Raybould 15

Next door is
Joseph Raybould 65 Nailer
Fanny Raybould 60
James Raybould 25 Chain Maker


I think if George Easthope is a constant the rigid leg of the compass
then the encircling other leg makes these names imho important.....or not
my gut instinct is this is crucial....wine time.. 8)

Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:02 pm
by Frodo
I have Mary Raybould's parents as Joseph Raybould (1774-1861) and Diana Yardley (1780-1842).
There is a death index entry for the death of Diana in December 1842, possibly dying in the October.
Ancestry have found a Diana Raybould age 75 in the 1841 census but I don't know whether it is the correct one.
As Diana isn't on the Census with Joseph had they separated?

Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:30 pm
by Waltzer7
Ah so it would be this Mary Raybould?:- :grin:

Name: Mary Raybold

Birth Date: 3 Sep 1804
Baptism Date: 18 Mar 1812
Baptism Place: Park Lane Presbyterian,Cradley,Worcester,England
Father: Joseph Raybold
Mother: Diana
FHL Film Number: 0816598 (RG4 1907), 0816598 (RG4 2015)

Name Mary Raybold
Gender Female
Marriage Date 08 Apr 1833
Marriage Place St. John, Halesowen, Worcester, England
Spouse Thomas Manger
FHL Film Number 350506
Reference ID item 865 p 287

Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:49 pm
by Frodo
That is the Mary Raybould I am using in my Manger family tree based on research on Ancestry, Family Search and the internet in general.

Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:19 pm
by kdwoodie
As previously posted by Northern Lass Mary was a widow when she married Thomas Manger .

Re: Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:37 pm
by Frodo
Presumably this means the link to Joseph Raybould and Diana Yardley is incorrect, instead the connection is via
Mary Brettell married to James son of Humphrey and Prudence.