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Re: Joseph Oliver
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:14 pm
by gardener
Summary:
Joseph Slater born abt 1842 (father Joseph Oliver according to wedding cert)
1841 Census
Knowle, Rowley Regis,
James Slater, 45, Coal Miner
Jane, 20
William, 15,
Richard, 14
Thomas, 13
James, 5
and
Jane Peters, 48, Nail Maker
John, 16,
/Maria, 14
William Slater, 68, Ind
1841 Census
Knowle, Rowley Regis,
Joseph Hopkiss, 40, Nail Maker
Sarah, 35
John, 15
Sarah, 12
Marryanne, 8
Elizabeth, 5,
Eliza, 3
Thomas, 1
Emealia Smith, 15, Nail Maker
1851
Knowle, Rowley Regis
Joseph Hipkiss, head, 50, Collery labourer
Sarah, wife, 48,
Maryann, daur, 17,
Eliza, daur, 16,
Thomas, son, 10,
David, son, 8
All born Rowley
1852
OLIVER Joseph HIPKISS Sarah Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/011/431 (being looked up, can't find on census)
1861
Knowle
Sarah Hipkiss 57 nailer RR
David ditto 19 miner ditto
Joseph Slater unm 18 miner RR
1851
Gosty Hill, RR
Joseph Oliver 32 coal miner Dudley
Elizabeth ditto 28 ditto
James ditto 6 ditto
Thomas ditto 3 ditto
Jane ditto 4m RR
1861
High St Dudley
Jos Oliver 43 coal miner Dudley
Elizabeth 40 ditto
James 16 ditto
Thos 14 ditto
Jane 10 ditto
Eliza 8 ditto
Edward 5 ditto
William Henry 1 ditto
Could be the right Joseph Oliver, was in Dudley in 1841, parents Thomas and Jane. Only can't see any connection then.
Re: Joseph Oliver
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:36 pm
by Northern Lass
So this lot...
1851
Gosty Hill, RR
Joseph Oliver 32 coal miner Dudley
Elizabeth ditto 28 ditto
James ditto 6 ditto
Thomas ditto 3 ditto
Jane ditto 4m RR
1861
High St Dudley
Jos Oliver 43 coal miner Dudley
Elizabeth 40 ditto
James 16 ditto
Thos 14 ditto
Jane 10 ditto
Eliza 8 ditto
Edward 5 ditto
William Henry 1 ditto
have got parents Thomas and Jane?
and there is that name Jane again

Re: Joseph Oliver
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:35 am
by Northern Lass
Any more thoughts on this or are we waiting for look up
So I will archive pending look up

Re: *Arc pend look up* -Joseph Oliver
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:29 am
by linell
This may help, they are neighbours to Sarah Hipkiss and Joseph Slater in Knowle 1861:-
John Hipkiss 36
Ann 37
Wm 16
Joseph 12
Catherine 8
Sorry no further details, Image not available on Find My Past.
Linell.
Re: *Arc pend look up* -Joseph Oliver
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:10 pm
by Northern Lass
Ok have done this look up
The Joseph that married Sarah Hipkiss is a young one
a minor on cert so age 20 or younger
so say b abt 1832
father is a Benjamin Oliver
might be interesting to find father Oliver and son Joseph.
Sarah HIpkiss is the one here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =355591088Marriage info<br>
30 May 1852 St Thomas Dudley<br>
Joseph Oliver- minor- bach- Blacksmith- Dudley- Benjamin Oliver- farmer<br>
Sarah Hipkiss- of full age- spinster- Dudley- Moses Hipkiss- Iron manufacturer<br>
banns<br>
both signed<br>
Wit Thomas Glaze and Ann Louisa Glaze
wits are sarahs sister
Re: *Arc pend look up* -Joseph Oliver
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:20 am
by Northern Lass
If we are done with this I will rearchive
Re: *Arc tbc* -Joseph Oliver
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:47 pm
by kdw
Could this be the Joseph 1833 with parents?
1841 Park Lane Cradley
Benj Oliver 50 Boat Contr Born in County
Maria Oliver 40 Not born in county
Wm Oliver 15 Born in county
Ann Oliver 13 Born in county
Henry Oliver 11 Born in county
Joseph Oliver 9 Born in county
Benjn Oliver 7 Born in county
Edwin Oliver 5 Born in county
Alfred Oliver 2 Born in county
1851 Back of Park Terrace Cradley
Benjamin Oliver Head 57 Contactor employing 12 Men Born Nr Bendley, Worcestershire
Maria Oliver 53 Born Ludson, Shropshire
James Oliver Son 27 Millwright Born Kidderminster, Worcestershire
Henry Oliver Son 21 Guile? Born Cradley, Worcestershire
Joseph Oliver Son 18 Blacksmith Born Cradley, Worcestershire
Benjamin Oliver Son 16 Wheelright Born Cradley, Worcestershire
Edwin Oliver Son 4 Assistant to ? Born Cradley, Worcestershire
Ann Pearce Servant 18 Born Kinver
Joseph already found 1861
1871 Back of Park row "Rose and Crown" Cradley
Joseph Oliver Head 38 Blacksmith Born Cradley
Eliza Oliver Wife 29 Born Lye Waste
Maria Oliver Daur. 16 Born Cradley
Mary Morton Serv. 13 Domestic Servant Born Cradley
1881 20 Park Row Cradley
Eliza Oliver Head Wid. 39 Inn Keeper Born Cradley
Maria Oliver Daur. 26 No Trade Born Cradley
Annie Oliver Daur. 9 Born Cradley
Rosehannah Bradley Serv 14 Domestic Servany Born Cradley
2 Possible deaths for Sarah Oliver
Deaths Dec 1862
OLIVER Sarah Stourbridge 6c 89
Deaths Mar 1869
Oliver Sarah 34 Stourbridge 6c 112
This marriage for Joseph
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1868
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
OLIVER Joseph HOMER Eliza Stourbridge Register Office Dudley Register Office 001/005/79
Death for Joseph
Deaths Sep 1872
Oliver Joseph 40 Stourbridge 6c 121
Possible marriage for Benjamin and Maria
BENJAMIN OLIVER Pedigree
Marriages:
Spouse: MARIA BUTCHER Family
Marriage: 20 JAN 1823 Kingswinford, Stafford, England
Re: *Arc tbc* -Joseph Oliver
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:50 pm
by Northern Lass
does look good for that Joseph Kdw

Re: *Arc tbc* -Joseph Oliver
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:14 am
by Northern Lass
Kdw you fancy adding that info? if you got a min

Re: *Arc tbc* -Joseph Oliver
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:23 am
by kdw
Just noticed Linell has Sarah Ann Oliver on BCC daughter born 1852, shes not on census with Joseph and Sarah. Will add it later
Kaye
Re: *Arc tbc* -Joseph Oliver
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:07 pm
by kdw
All info added here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =928381627Ignore the last post about Sarah Ann shes with Grandmother Sarah Hipkiss(Nee Warr)
Can Archive this if you want
Kaye