*Arc tbc* -Joseph Oliver

[gardener]

Summary:

Joseph Slater born abt 1842 (father Joseph Oliver according to wedding cert)

1841 Census
Knowle, Rowley Regis,
James Slater, 45, Coal Miner
Jane, 20
William, 15,
Richard, 14
Thomas, 13
James, 5
and
Jane Peters, 48, Nail Maker
John, 16,
/Maria, 14
William Slater, 68, Ind

1841 Census
Knowle, Rowley Regis,
Joseph Hopkiss, 40, Nail Maker
Sarah, 35
John, 15
Sarah, 12
Marryanne, 8
Elizabeth, 5,
Eliza, 3
Thomas, 1
Emealia Smith, 15, Nail Maker

1851
Knowle, Rowley Regis
Joseph Hipkiss, head, 50, Collery labourer
Sarah, wife, 48,
Maryann, daur, 17,
Eliza, daur, 16,
Thomas, son, 10,
David, son, 8
All born Rowley

1852
OLIVER Joseph HIPKISS Sarah Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/011/431 (being looked up, can't find on census)


1861
Knowle
Sarah Hipkiss 57 nailer RR
David ditto 19 miner ditto
Joseph Slater unm 18 miner RR


1851
Gosty Hill, RR
Joseph Oliver 32 coal miner Dudley
Elizabeth ditto 28 ditto
James ditto 6 ditto
Thomas ditto 3 ditto
Jane ditto 4m RR

1861
High St Dudley
Jos Oliver 43 coal miner Dudley
Elizabeth 40 ditto
James 16 ditto
Thos 14 ditto
Jane 10 ditto
Eliza 8 ditto
Edward 5 ditto
William Henry 1 ditto

Could be the right Joseph Oliver, was in Dudley in 1841, parents Thomas and Jane. Only can't see any connection then.

[Northern Lass]

So this lot...
1851
Gosty Hill, RR
Joseph Oliver 32 coal miner Dudley
Elizabeth ditto 28 ditto
James ditto 6 ditto
Thomas ditto 3 ditto
Jane ditto 4m RR

1861
High St Dudley
Jos Oliver 43 coal miner Dudley
Elizabeth 40 ditto
James 16 ditto
Thos 14 ditto
Jane 10 ditto
Eliza 8 ditto
Edward 5 ditto
William Henry 1 ditto

have got parents Thomas and Jane?

and there is that name Jane again

[Northern Lass]

Any more thoughts on this or are we waiting for look up

So I will archive pending look up

[linell]

This may help, they are neighbours to Sarah Hipkiss and Joseph Slater in Knowle 1861:-

John Hipkiss 36
Ann 37
Wm 16
Joseph 12
Catherine 8

Sorry no further details, Image not available on Find My Past.

Linell.

[Northern Lass]

Ok have done this look up

The Joseph that married Sarah Hipkiss is a young one
a minor on cert so age 20 or younger
so say b abt 1832
father is a Benjamin Oliver

might be interesting to find father Oliver and son Joseph.

Sarah HIpkiss is the one here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =355591088

Marriage info<br>
30 May 1852 St Thomas Dudley<br>
Joseph Oliver- minor- bach- Blacksmith- Dudley- Benjamin Oliver- farmer<br>
Sarah Hipkiss- of full age- spinster- Dudley- Moses Hipkiss- Iron manufacturer<br>
banns<br>
both signed<br>
Wit Thomas Glaze and Ann Louisa Glaze

wits are sarahs sister

[Northern Lass]

If we are done with this I will rearchive

[kdw]

Could this be the Joseph 1833 with parents?
1841 Park Lane Cradley
Benj Oliver 50 Boat Contr Born in County
Maria Oliver 40 Not born in county
Wm Oliver 15 Born in county
Ann Oliver 13 Born in county
Henry Oliver 11 Born in county
Joseph Oliver 9 Born in county
Benjn Oliver 7 Born in county
Edwin Oliver 5 Born in county
Alfred Oliver 2 Born in county

1851 Back of Park Terrace Cradley
Benjamin Oliver Head 57 Contactor employing 12 Men Born Nr Bendley, Worcestershire
Maria Oliver 53 Born Ludson, Shropshire
James Oliver Son 27 Millwright Born Kidderminster, Worcestershire
Henry Oliver Son 21 Guile? Born Cradley, Worcestershire
Joseph Oliver Son 18 Blacksmith Born Cradley, Worcestershire
Benjamin Oliver Son 16 Wheelright Born Cradley, Worcestershire
Edwin Oliver Son 4 Assistant to ? Born Cradley, Worcestershire
Ann Pearce Servant 18 Born Kinver

Joseph already found 1861

1871 Back of Park row "Rose and Crown" Cradley
Joseph Oliver Head 38 Blacksmith Born Cradley
Eliza Oliver Wife 29 Born Lye Waste
Maria Oliver Daur. 16 Born Cradley
Mary Morton Serv. 13 Domestic Servant Born Cradley

1881 20 Park Row Cradley
Eliza Oliver Head Wid. 39 Inn Keeper Born Cradley
Maria Oliver Daur. 26 No Trade Born Cradley
Annie Oliver Daur. 9 Born Cradley
Rosehannah Bradley Serv 14 Domestic Servany Born Cradley

2 Possible deaths for Sarah Oliver
Deaths Dec 1862
OLIVER Sarah Stourbridge 6c 89

Deaths Mar 1869
Oliver Sarah 34 Stourbridge 6c 112

This marriage for Joseph
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1868
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
OLIVER Joseph HOMER Eliza Stourbridge Register Office Dudley Register Office 001/005/79

Death for Joseph
Deaths Sep 1872
Oliver Joseph 40 Stourbridge 6c 121

Possible marriage for Benjamin and Maria

BENJAMIN OLIVER Pedigree
Marriages:
Spouse: MARIA BUTCHER Family
Marriage: 20 JAN 1823 Kingswinford, Stafford, England

[Northern Lass]

does look good for that Joseph Kdw

[Northern Lass]

Kdw you fancy adding that info? if you got a min

[kdw]

Just noticed Linell has Sarah Ann Oliver on BCC daughter born 1852, shes not on census with Joseph and Sarah. Will add it later
Kaye

[kdw]

All info added here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =928381627
Ignore the last post about Sarah Ann shes with Grandmother Sarah Hipkiss(Nee Warr)
Can Archive this if you want
Kaye