*Arch * -Charles and Jane Byng

[FarSide]

Just added one to lookups

[Northern Lass]

All extracted
ELIZA ADAMS
Christening: 01 MAY 1836 All Saints, Dilhorne, Stafford, England
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM ADAMS
Mother: ANN

ELIZA ADAMS
Christening: 19 NOV 1837 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM ADAMS
Mother: HANNAH

ELIZABETH ADAMS
Christening: 01 JAN 1837 Redditch, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM ADAMS
Mother: ELIZABETH

Ok that 1837 one looks good doesnt it
going with that one
I can dble check the bapt too see if a nailer on it

anyother elizas with a william on the census Fs living Halesowen?

[FarSide]

No, only that one.

[Northern Lass]

Just added one to lookups

so hang on I am getting confused
this is the marriage

1880.
BYNG Sivithin, WILLIAMS Caroline, Halesowen, St John the Baptist, Dudley Register Office, 014/004/437.


but he calls himself Joseph as does his father call him on census

but he is regis

1861
BYNG Swithen Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/33/153

this is interesting

1880
BYNG Joseph S Halesowen Dudley Register Office HAL/043/462

we have the census for this Joseph and Caroline later but can we find earlier ones see if this is their kid

[Northern Lass]

No, only that one.

joining up the eliza adams now

then we can sort this swithen one

[FarSide]

Copied from BCC
1871 157 Spring Hill, Hasbury
Sauther Byng 34 - Nailor - b Bromsgrove
Ellen Byng 33 - Nailor - b Belbrougton
Eliza Byng 16 - Nailor - Bromsgrove
Joseph Byng 9 - Nurse
William Byng 6
Robert Byng 4
Eliza Byng 1 - b Hasbury(this is Israel we think)
others b Rowley

[FarSide]

Extracted
JOSEPH SWITHIN BYNG
Christening: 20 APR 1863 Cradley, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: SWITHIN BYNG
Mother: ELLEN

[Northern Lass]

So he is bapt as joseph swithen in 1863
but regis in 1861 as swithen in 1861

is that how you read it

and then on census known as joseph
but marries as swithen

so if there is no marriage for a caroline and Joseph we can join up

just the names of the kids concerns me not one of em is called after sibs

so wondered if we can find this couple on earlier census


ps eliza added

[Jimmy]

Jimmy you havent got a birth certif for this eliza have you?

No I haven't got a birth cert.

[Jimmy]

Jimmy would you also have a look at this too..

1881.
Joseph Swithin BYNG. Head. M Male 18 Halesowen, Worcester, Bricklayers Labourer.
Caroline BYNG. Wife. M Female 21 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Forger.

Stourbridge Road.
Halesowen, Worcester.

West Midlands Marriage 1880.
BYNG Sivithin, WILLIAMS Caroline, Halesowen, St John the Baptist, Dudley Register Office, 014/004/437.

Marriages Dec 1880.
Adams Harriet. Stourbridge. 6c 246.
BYNG Swithin. Stourbridge. 6c 246.
Pagett Eliza. Stourbridge. 6c 246.
Turberville William. Stourbridge. 6c 246.
WILLIAMS Caroline. Stourbridge. 6c 246.

Can someone have a look I reckon this is the same guy

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =352679215

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=75402340

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =594381583

Extracted.

CAROLINE WILLIAMS.
TWITHIN BYNG.
Marriage, 07 NOV 1880, Halesowen, Worcester.
Husband Age at Marriage, 17.
Wife Age at Marriage, 20.

[Northern Lass]

Something is not right here

On ancestry this Caroline williams b 1860 dau of John Williams and Rebecca is on the 1881

so not sure which Caroline Williams this Swithin Byng married but cant be this one with father John

she is unmarried on 1881

but!! that could be the dau of Thomas and Fanny

so looks like we have 2
got the marriage for look up will see who parents are
in the meantime sepearated tree

but still need to determine if that Joseph Byng and Caroline on 1891 and 1901 with those kids
are the Swithin/Joseph Byng and Caroline Williams
wish some of the kids names were names of sibs

[Jimmy]

Births Mar 1862.
BYNG Swithen, Dudley, 6c. 3.

West Midlands Birth 1861.
BYNG Swithen, Rowley Regis, Sandwell Register Office, RR/33/153.

It looks like a mistake on the year.

[Northern Lass]

Rite on 1881 he is joseph Swithin Byng

so that sorts it can anyone post it ....



and next door but one to John and Rebecca williams

he is a bricklayer
no kids
need 1891

[FarSide]

On the 1901 Joseph & Caroline living next door to Swithin b 1835 in Blackberry Lane, wait for lookup..

[Northern Lass]

So on 1881 he is next door to inlaws John and Rebecca ok so we can join up Caroline

on 1901 he is next door to Swithin
so I can join up cant I

I would just like the 1891 to see some of the kids