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Re: Emmanuel Harper -to be added

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Poss - witness's for each other..

20 May 1804 Elizabeth, do Joseph & Sarah Harper


http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... per-Family

Halesowen
8 Oct 1826
Benjamin Harper, X, otp, bach
Mary Ann Harper, X, otp, spin
by GS (Curate)
Wit - Benjamin Cox & Elizabeth Cox, both signed X



peterd wrote:
poss elizabeth harper above is this one on bcc marries benjamin cox ?

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Added by Kdw

5 June 1825 St John Halesowen
Benjamin Cox otp bach Elizabeth Harper otp spin
by GS(Curate
Benj Cox X
Elizabeth Harper X
Wit: Benjamin Haper X Ann Harper X


there quite a few links here if we can find the info ?


1857 & 1863 Rev JHT notebook
Two Gates
Cox
Benjamin, nailer, deaf, no church
Elizabeth, church seldom
Lucy, 21, nailer, teaches school
Benjamin 15, Apr, Congreaves, no school
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Re: Emmanuel Harper

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peterd wrote:
FarSide wrote:
Name: Joseph Harper
Spouse's Name: Sarah Cox
Event Date: 11 Jun 1794
Event Place: Clent, Worcester, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M03517-2


11 Jun 1794
Joseph Harper, X, bach, of the Parish of Rowley Regis
Sarah Cox, X, spr, ots
by Banns
Wit - Joseph Bloomer & Robt Waldron (Waldron on heaps)


Poss burial for Sarah, this would put her bapt abt 1773..
County Worcestershire
Place Halesowen
Church St John the Baptist
RegisterNumber
BurialDate 10 Sep 1839
Forename Sarah
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname HARPER
Age 66
Abode Cradley
Notes
FileNumber 35179
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I had a look at the marriage of Mary Ann Harper to Benjamin Harper.. (I know! )

Halesowen 8 Oct 1826
Benjamin Harper, X, otp, bach
Mary Ann Harper, X, otp, spin
by GS (Curate)
Wit - Benjamin Cox & Elizabeth Cox, both signed X


This Benjamin Harper I believe is the son of James Harper & Leah Grigg - that's for another topic



http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =228886628



1841 Colley Gate Halesowen
Benjamin Harper 35 Nailor
Mary Ann Harper 35
Rhoda Harper 14
Matilda Harper 8
Lucinda Harper 6
Rebecca Harper 4
Thomas Harper 10
All Born in County


about 6 doors apart

1841 colley gate

Thomas Harper 45 nailor
Hannah Harper 45
Joseph Harper 20 steel pilston ?
Samuel Harper 15
Minah Harper 15
Benjamin Harper 15
Mary Ann Harper 13
Elizabeth Harper 11
Eliza Harper 9
David Harper 3


1851: Jail Yard Top of Furlong Lane Cradley
Thomas Harper HD W 56 Nail Maker
Elizabeth D 21 Nail Maker
David Son 13 Chain Maker
Edward Bloomer Son In Law M 27 Nail Maker
Jemima D M 27
Farley GS 6
Sarah GD 4
Caleb GS 2
Edward GS 4 Months Belper Derby
Rhoda Harper NC U 24 Nail Maker
all others born Cradley



we know these are brother and sister so they can be connected



thomas can be added here

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i think these are the family in the above census

Thomas Harper
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 15 February 1795 HALESOWEN,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
father: Joseph Harper
mother: Sarah

bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =734185478


Sarah Harper
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 27 September 1801 HALESOWEN,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
father: Joseph Harper
mother: Sarah


poss sarah ?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =330728344



Mary Ann Harper
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 2 March 1806 HALESOWEN,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
father: Joseph Harper
mother: Sarah


see above post


Benjn. Harper
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 26 June 1808 HALESOWEN,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
father: Joseph Harper
mother: Sarah


poss benjamin need to find more info

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=85134669


Lucy Harper
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 26 June 1814 HALESOWEN,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
father: Joseph Harper
mother: Sarah


poss mar

Lucy Harper
William Hingley
marriage: 25 December 1834 Dudley, Worcester,

or

HARPER Lucy TEDSTONE James 1845 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/006/345





Name: Matilda Harper
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 28 Jul 1817
Christening Place: PARK LANE PRESBYTERIAN,CRADLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Joseph Harper
Mother's Name: Sarah
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:C09371




and these are the parents

11 Jun 1794
Joseph Harper, X, bach, of the Parish of Rowley Regis
Sarah Cox, X, spr, ots
by Banns
Wit - Joseph Bloomer & Robt Waldron (Waldron on heaps)
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poss benjamin

1841; Two Gates, Cradley

Benjn Harper 30 nailor
Pheby Harper 30
Edwin Harper 11
Ann Harper 9
Harriet Harper 5
Michale Harper 2
Ellen Harper 1 Mo




1851; Two Gates, Cradley

Benj Harper 42 nailor
Phebe Harper 42 nailor
Edwin Harper 21 nailor
Ann Harper 19 nailor
Harriot Harper 14 nailor
Ellen Harper 10 nailor
Phebe Harper 5
Fanny Harper 1
all born cradley

1861 two Gates, Cradley

Benjamin Harper 52 Nailor
Phebe Harper 52 Nailor
Ellen Harper 20 Nailor
Phebe Harper 15 Nailor
Fanny Harper 11 Nailor
Elizabeth Harper 9
all born cradley
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I had a look at the marriage of Mary Ann Harper to Benjamin Harper.. (I know! )

Halesowen 8 Oct 1826
Benjamin Harper, X, otp, bach
Mary Ann Harper, X, otp, spin
by GS (Curate)
Wit - Benjamin Cox & Elizabeth Cox, both signed X


This Benjamin Harper I believe is the son of James Harper & Leah Grigg - that's for another topic



http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =228886628



1841 Colley Gate Halesowen
Benjamin Harper 35 Nailor
Mary Ann Harper 35
Rhoda Harper 14
Matilda Harper 8
Lucinda Harper 6
Rebecca Harper 4
Thomas Harper 10
All Born in County




1871 Colly Orchard, Cradley

Benj Henper 67 wid Nailor
Moses Henper 25 Nailor
Eli Henper 22 Nailor
Mary Ann Henper 18 Nailor
Janes Harper 69 brother visitor
all born cradley
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Re: Emmanuel Harper -to be added

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peterd wrote:poss benjamin

1841; Two Gates, Cradley

Benjn Harper 30 nailor
Pheby Harper 30
Edwin Harper 11
Ann Harper 9
Harriet Harper 5
Michale Harper 2
Ellen Harper 1 Mo




1851; Two Gates, Cradley

Benj Harper 42 nailor
Phebe Harper 42 nailor
Edwin Harper 21 nailor
Ann Harper 19 nailor
Harriot Harper 14 nailor
Ellen Harper 10 nailor
Phebe Harper 5
Fanny Harper 1
all born cradley

1861 two Gates, Cradley

Benjamin Harper 52 Nailor
Phebe Harper 52 Nailor
Ellen Harper 20 Nailor
Phebe Harper 15 Nailor
Fanny Harper 11 Nailor
Elizabeth Harper 9
all born cradley


Halesowen
6 Jul 1828
Benjamin Harper, X, otp, bach
Phoebe Mansel, X, otp, spin
by GS (Curate)
Wit - Thomas Parkes & George G. Fiddian

Poss Phoebe
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wonder if linell as anything ?
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sarah & william


1841 forge lane

Joseph Bessele (Bissell) 60 grinder
Elizabeth Bessele 60
Joseph Bessele 30 grinder

next door

1841 forge lane

William Bessele 40 grinder
Sarah Bessele 35
Elizabeth Bessele 18
Naarar Bessele 15

poss mar

Marriages Sep 1846
Bissell Neri Bromsgrove 18 257
Worton Jemimah Bromsgrove 18 257


1851 Gibbett Lane, Hasbury

William Bissell 51 gun barrel grinder
Sarah Bissell 50 nailor
Elizabeth Bissell 27 nailor
all born cradley

next door

1851 Gibbett Lane, Hasbury

Neri Bissell 26
Simion Bissell 25
William Bissell 6
Samuel Bissell 4
Emila Bissell 2
Hannah Bissell 10 Mo


1861 Gibbett Lane, Hasbury

Neri Bissell 34 gun barrel grinder
Jemima Bissell 35 Nailor
William Bissell 16 lab ironwork
Samuel Bissell 14 lab ironwork
Emily Bissell 12 Nailor
Hannah Bissell 10
Joseph Bissell 8
John Bissell 6
Mary Bissell 4
Neri Bissell 2

next door

1861 Gibbett Lane, Hasbury

William Bissell 60 wid gun barrel grinder



1871 Gibbett Lane, Hasbury

William Bissell 70 wid retierd gun barrel grinder
Edith Siviter 14 serv nailor & assistant


next door

1871 Gibbett Lane, Hasbury

Neri Bissell 47 gun barrel grinder
Jimmima Bissell 45
Emily Bissell 22 nailor
Joseph Bissell 18 gun barrel grinder
John Bissell 16 driller
Mary Bissell 14 nailor
Neri Bissell 18 lab
Sarah Bissell 8
Thomas Bissell 6
Olive Bissell 2



son marriage

Marriages Jun 1877
Bissell Neri Dudley 6c 129
Shilvock Jane Dudley 6c 129
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Halesowen
22 Dec 1822
William Bissell, bach of par. Rowley
Sarah Harper, X, otp, spin
by GE (Curate)
Wit - George Fiddian & Joseph Harper, X


is this her father ?
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Not been following this but will add what I can find - From Vicar's Notes :-

1857 Gingerbread Row 194
Samuel Harper Nailer Widower with Eliza 12 and Temperance 10 he is brother of Benjamin here:-

Gingerbread Row (this is Two Gates area) 195

Benjamin Harper labourer wife Mary children Solomon 10, Elias 8, Immanuel 6, Anthony 4. Sarah 2, Mary Jane Infant. Also in household is Wm Worton and wife Mary.

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Vicar's Notes 1857 - Two Gates:-

Benjamin Harper Nailer Wife Phoebe has Betsey after Phoebe with a question mark, as if the Vicar is not sure of her Name? Children - Ellen 17, Phoebe 10, Fanny 9, Elizabeth 5, Mary Jane 1, Selina 1.

Also in household is James Weaver Chainmaker and wife Harriet.

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Vicar's Notes 1863 - Two Gates:-

Benjamin Harper Nailer Wife Phoebe - Children Phoebe 17, Fanny 14, Elizabeth Granddaughter 11, Selina 7, Deborah 5, Samuel 1.

Also Harriet Weaver in household, says she is Benjamin's Daughter her husband is away for 3 years.

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linell wrote:Not been following this but will add what I can find - From Vicar's Notes :-

1857 Gingerbread Row 194
Samuel Harper Nailer Widower with Eliza 12 and Temperance 10 he is brother of Benjamin here:-

Gingerbread Row (this is Two Gates area) 195

Benjamin Harper labourer wife Mary children Solomon 10, Elias 8, Immanuel 6, Anthony 4. Sarah 2, Mary Jane Infant. Also in household is Wm Worton and wife Mary.

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these will be thomas kids then ?

1841 colley gate

Thomas Harper 45 nailor
Hannah Harper 45
Joseph Harper 20 steel pilston ?
Samuel Harper 15
Minah Harper 15
Benjamin Harper 15
Mary Ann Harper 13
Elizabeth Harper 11
Eliza Harper 9
David Harper 3
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Re: Emmanuel Harper -to be added

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peterd wrote:
Halesowen
22 Dec 1822
William Bissell, bach of par. Rowley
Sarah Harper, X, otp, spin
by GE (Curate)
Wit - George Fiddian & Joseph Harper, X


is this her father ?


Halesowen
18 Mar 1798 Joseph, so Joseph & Sarah Harper
27 Sep 1801 Sarah, do Joseph & Sarah Harper


Could be her brother..

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