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Hi Just to let you all know that I have received the birth registration of Evangeline Jones Whorton

not sure why she has the middle name Jones...anyway father is the son of Samuel Whorton

here is the birth regis info...

27 April 1896 Norton Brown Hills-- Evangeline Jones--girl--John Carter Whorton--Fanny Whorton formerly Stokes--general Labourer--signed by f. Whorton mother (norton) 2nd June 1896


John Carter Whorton I am just filling in the tree on this........

Johns full name on bapt

JOHN CARTER WORTON Birth: 06 NOV 1846

Christening: 20 DEC 1846 Gornall, Stafford,
Father: SAMUEL WORTON Family
Mother: ELIZABETH
Extracted birth

this is the marriage

1885
WHORTON John C STOKES Annie Blackheath, St Paul Dudley Register Office 012/002/120



so when did Sarah die?
can we find a death for Sarah Whorton betw 1881 and 1885?
and
can we find this John and annie/fanny on the 1891
then a death for both of em

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =267958281

This looks like the death for Sarah Ann Whorton ( nee newton)

1882 dec qtr
Worton Sarah Ann 35 Dudley 6c 7

deaths for John and fanny now

Tree on Ancestry ( Robinson Family Tree) says that John 'Carte' Whorton died 1928 Staffordshire, and Fanny nee Stokes died 1935 Staffordshire.

Rite need some help here guys think we have a big connection on the tree

with these Whortons/Stokes into the Brettells and Tibbetts..

A tree on ances has

Fanny Stokes with parents Wm Stokes and Elizabeth Brettle

So

1st marriage of Elizabeth brettell ( b 1833) is David tibbetts
25 Dec 1853

this is them here on Connections

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=48890033

and I think this is Elizabeth on connections too

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =307673209

So that marriage will be looked up to see if father for Elizabeth is Thomas to David Tibbetts
I think I did it ages ago for someone..not sure..before Connections site.


and then

2nd marriage of Elizabeth Tibbetts (nee Brettell )is William Stokes.
1858

then think they have Fanny Stokes who married John Carter Whorton


I have found Fanny on the census and that is here...1891
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =306826090

can anyone help me verify this please

dianel wrote:Tree on Ancestry ( Robinson Family Tree) says that John 'Carte' Whorton died 1928 Staffordshire, and Fanny nee Stokes died 1935 Staffordshire.

yes I am looking at another tree Pargeter and it is odd that they gave up their dau for adoption
wonder why

1901 Hednesford Rd., Norton, Staffs.
John Carte Whorton Head 54 Labourer Coal Pit Bank b. Staffs., Gornall
Fanny Whorton Wife 37 Grocers Shop Keeper b. Halesowen
Samuel Whorton Son 13 b. Staffs. Norton Canes
William Whorton Son 10 b. Staffs. Norton Canes
Alice Whorton Daur 8 b. Staffs. Norton Canes
Amy Whorton Daur 5 b. Staffs. Norton Canes
Harry Whorton Son 1 b. Staffs. Norton Canes

Amy appears to be the same age that Evangeline would be in 1901, doesn't she? Were they twins? Is this why they gave Evangeline to her aunt to bring up?

Just noticed that Thomas Brettell is on the 1871
Short Cross, Hasbury
accord to some notes I have
same place that Fanny Stokes was

1871 Stourbridge Rd/Short Cross, Hasbury
Entry 158
Thomas Brettell Head 66 Nail Forger
William Brettell Son 36 Nail Forger
Ellen Brettell Daur in law 32 Nail Forger
Mary A. Brettell Granddaur 10
Ellen Brettell Granddaur 5
Ann M. Brettell Granddaur 2
Lydia Brettell Granddaur 3mths
David Tibbetts Grandson 16 Bricklayer's Labourer

Entry 159
William Stokes Head Widowr 37 Bricklayer
Eliza Stokes Daur 12
Sarah Stokes Daur 9
Fanny Stokes Daur 7
George Stokes Son 2

All born Halesowen

Think that ties Elizabeth Brettell married to David Tibbetts to Thomas father so will connect the tree

can anyone find this Elizabeth Tibbetts /Stokes (nee Brettell)just to confirm her dob with one of these hubbies
and her place of birth

extracted

ELIZABETH BRETTEL
Christening: 24 MAR 1833 Halesowen, Worcester,

Father: THOMAS BRETTEL
Mother: ANN MARIA

Rite she is joined up and on ....so that is a good connection....
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

need her now with William Stokes added ...ie that marriage and then think that sorts that.

Huge amount of detail on those ances trees but it needs all dble checking

all thomas and ann maria

all extracted


PHOEBE BRETTELL
Christening: 25 NOV 1846 Halesowen, Worcester,
Death: 11 FEB 1847

LYDIA BRETTELL
Christening: 25 NOV 1846 Halesowen, Worcester,
Death: 11 FEB 1847

ELIZABETH BRETTEL
Christening: 24 MAR 1833 Halesowen, Worcester,

CHARLES BRETTELL
Christening: 11 JUL 1834 Halesowen, Worcester,

CHARLES BRETTELL
Christening: 27 APR 1836 Halesowen, Worcester,

WILLIAM BRETTELL
Christening: 15 JUL 1836 Halesowen, Worcester,

WILLIAM BRETTELL
Christening: 20 NOV 1836 Halesowen, Worcester,

THOMAS BRETTLE
Christening: 12 JUL 1843 Halesowen, Worcester,
Death: 16 JUL 1843

ANN MARIA BRETTLE
Christening: 16 MAY 1830 Halesowen, Worcester,

Ok think that is all on here now....

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =927605164

So unless anyone wishes to run anymore with this we can archive it
I can look up 2 marriages
and may open a post on George Stokes and his son William ahead of the Wm Stokes and Eliz Tibbetts marr look up