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Re: Horse Shoe Colley Gate for Old Bill
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:31 am
by Antie Em
Just found my Dudley Disc (Tony Hitchmough's Black Country Pubs)
Horse Shoe, Colley Gate, Cradley
Licensees
Daniel Mole - 1845
Miss Jane Mole - 1884
Albert Mole - 1888 - 1896
Daniel and Albert Mole were also Blacksmiths
Re: Horse Shoe Colley Gate for Old Bill
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:38 am
by OldBill
Thanks Aunt Em, that's excellent. However, I am also interested in the fact you have found a premises in Old Hill spelt the same. That's a first for me and removes the' comfort blanket' associated with the spelling of the name.
OldBill
Re: Horse Shoe Colley Gate for Old Bill
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:38 am
by linell
OldBill wrote:What a fantastic chronology Linell! Thank you. I am encouraged by your findings. I was aware of the Moles being associated with the premises but I did not go back to mid 1800s. I now believe, taking into account the 1871 census revelation connecting the Horse Shoe to Bedcote Street; that Philip's pub is one of the same. It is also interesting, that the name of the premises remains consistently written as two words. No where else can I find premises where this is the case.
The fact the premises is also associated with a forge (as was every other building in the area), is nevertheless, important from my perspective ~ every little helps as they say.
If I cannot find anything on line, would the best place to chase for further information be Dudley or Stourbridge records?
Thanks to oscar also. I would like to think that the Ezra running the Waggon & Horses in 1824 in Old Hill, is an Ezra featuring somewhere along my trail.
Thanks again!
OldBill
Hi Bill, Dudley Archives at Coseley has the records for Cradley, as Jan says will have Maps, probably easier to search for a Blacksmith than the Pub or Bedcote Street. A search on Colley Gate would involve realms of old documents you would need all day there probably. The Archivist will search for you, but they do charge. Happy hunting from Linell.
Re: Horse Shoe Colley Gate for Old Bill
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:40 am
by linell
OldBill wrote:Thanks Aunt Em, that's excellent. However, I am also interested in the fact you have found a premises in Old Hill spelt the same. That's a first for me and removes the' comfort blanket' associated with the spelling of the name.
OldBill
I don't think you should get carried away with the spellings Bill, the spellings were a personal perception by whoever was doing the Census or whoever else was collecting information at that time. Bit like Crumpton and Crampton
Linell.
Re: Horse Shoe Colley Gate for Old Bill
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:42 am
by Antie Em
The Crown, 88 Lyde Green (Light Green) Cradley - known locally as the Blue Brick
William Crampton is mentioned in an article in the Stourbridge Observer, 1866. He was summoned by Samuel Cook, Landlord of the premises for refusing to quit his house when requested and damaging the latch on his door. He agreed to pay 12 shillings and 6 pence.
(Tony Hitchmough, Black Country Pubs)
Re: Horse Shoe Colley Gate for Old Bill
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:05 am
by Northern Lass
moving this to Towns and Villages
Linell if you dont think that is the correct place move it to social history Bc section
wasnt sure which to put it in
Re: Horse Shoe Colley Gate for Old Bill
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:39 pm
by Antie Em
Antie Em wrote:The Crown, 88 Lyde Green (Light Green) Cradley - known locally as the Blue Brick
William Crampton is mentioned in an article in the Stourbridge Observer, 1866. He was summoned by Samuel Cook, Landlord of the premises for refusing to quit his house when requested and damaging the latch on his door. He agreed to pay 12 shillings and 6 pence.
(Tony Hitchmough, Black Country Pubs)
Expensive door latch in 1866
