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Re: Cannot find a marriage record

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Do you have the birth certif for any of the kids of Benjamin Pearson and "Eliza"?
to see if her name is Hamblett
she may have preferred name Eliza
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I dont have any birth certificates re Benjamin as my focus has been to find the pre-marriage name of mother, Harriott. I will have to 'digest' what you have all kindly provided and decide my next step. Unfortunately, I am not living near a records office that will have the records so will have to plan another :grin: trip.
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This is probably only useful for for BCC but as further background to this issue; a record was found on the IGI website which shows the death of John Pearson on 8 May 1840, aged 58 years, and his burial 'in Dudley' on 10 May 1840; his place of residence is shown as 'Mushroom'. This record corresponds with and supports the information known about daughter, Sarah Pearson; also a 'Transcript of Halesowen Parish Registers' shows that a John Pearson was baptised on 30 September 1781, and that he was the son of Joseph and Elizabeth Pearson.

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Prompted by all the responses, I have obtained a copy of the birth certificate for Benjamin, son of Benjamin and Eliza Pearson.
This shows son Benjamin was born on 9 July 1844 in Mushroom Green and his father was Benjamin, a ' Nailer' and his mother was Eliza (formerly 'Collins').
So my identification of Benjamin's wife as Elizabeth Hamblett was incorrect.

There is an IGI record of the marriage of a Benjamin Pearson and an Eliza Collins in the Parish Church, Clifton-upon-Teme, Worcestershire; I assume this is St Kelem's Church in that village. Clifton is in the Malvern Hills, a long way from Mushroom Green!

Has anybody got any details of marriages in this church which may provide further confirmation about the parentage of Benjamin. I dont expect it will help with my search for Harriott but would help complete the family 'picture'.
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nailer2011 wrote:Prompted by all the responses, I have obtained a copy of the birth certificate for Benjamin, son of Benjamin and Eliza Pearson.
This shows son Benjamin was born on 9 July 1844 in Mushroom Green and his father was Benjamin, a ' Nailer' and his mother was Eliza (formerly 'Collins').
So my identification of Benjamin's wife as Elizabeth Hamblett was incorrect.

There is an IGI record of the marriage of a Benjamin Pearson and an Eliza Collins in the Parish Church, Clifton-upon-Teme, Worcestershire; I assume this is St Kelem's Church in that village. Clifton is in the Malvern Hills, a long way from Mushroom Green!

Has anybody got any details of marriages in this church which may provide further confirmation about the parentage of Benjamin. I dont expect it will help with my search for Harriott but would help complete the family 'picture'.


That is brill thanks for posting that info nailer
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rite anyone going to Worcs pls


BENJAMIN PEARSON
Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZA COLLINS
Marriage: 12 MAY 1829 Clifton On Teme, Worcester,
Extracted

from the worcs archvies list

CLIFTON UPON TEME
C 1598-1980
M 1598-1993
B 1598-1993
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no more on the beta site

spouse: Eliza Collins
child:
marriage: 12 May 1829 - Clifton On Teme,Worcester,England

record title: England Marriages, 1538-1973
groom's name: Benjamin Pearson
bride's name: Eliza Collins
marriage date: 12 May 1829
marriage place: Clifton On Teme,Worcester,England
indexing project (batch) number: M04010-1
system origin: England-ODM
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nailer2011 wrote:Prompted by all the responses, I have obtained a copy of the birth certificate for Benjamin, son of Benjamin and Eliza Pearson.
This shows son Benjamin was born on 9 July 1844 in Mushroom Green and his father was Benjamin, a ' Nailer' and his mother was Eliza (formerly 'Collins').
So my identification of Benjamin's wife as Elizabeth Hamblett was incorrect.

There is an IGI record of the marriage of a Benjamin Pearson and an Eliza Collins in the Parish Church, Clifton-upon-Teme, Worcestershire; I assume this is St Kelem's Church in that village. Clifton is in the Malvern Hills, a long way from Mushroom Green!

Has anybody got any details of marriages in this church which may provide further confirmation about the parentage of Benjamin. I dont expect it will help with my search for Harriott but would help complete the family 'picture'.


Marriage kindly looked up by Rockyfowler
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =862506602

sent you pm nailer :wink:
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nailer2011 wrote:Hi, I am new to this forum so if this is not clear please forgive.

I am trying to identify the mother of a Sarah PEARSON who married Frederick FENDALL (aka FELDON) IN 1841. Her father was JOHN PEARSON and I believe she was one of 6 children who were christened in Park Lane Church, Cradley between 1806 and 1818 and whose parents were JOHN AND HARRIOTT PEARSON; Sarah was christened on 15/12/1918.

JOHN PEARSON was 'deceased' at the time of the marriage of Sarah and in the 1841 census there is a PEARSON family in Mushroom Green, headed-up by widow Harriott; Sarah PEARSON put Mushroom Green as her place of residence at time of her marriage to Frederick.

I cannot find the marriage of John and Harriott to establish Harriott's surname before marriage - help! :?: :(



Does anyone have Any more thoughts on this John Pearson Harriot marriage?
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Complete Mystery -may not have been recorded? Prob need to trawl Archives at Worcs starting at St thomas :?:
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So we are looking for Harriet unks name?

can we post all the bapts for the kids pls
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =675492781

or have we done that on this thread
if a non conformist we may get lucky on her maiden name and can take a look
we did with the westons

So all kids of John and Harriet...

John Pearson Christening
19 Oct 1806
Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =424099584

Joseph pearson Christening
03 Apr 1809
Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester

Ann Pearson Christening
24 Oct 1810
Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester

James Pearson Christening
22 Nov 1813
Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester

William pearson Christening
14 Jan 1816
Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester

Sarah Pearson Baptism
15 Dec 1818
Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester


does anyone have the PRs for this the transcripts for these bapts pls

these need looking at
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Just sent away for fiche will need to go to archives to read it :P
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rockyfowler wrote:Just sent away for fiche will need to go to archives to read it :P


Come round to my house
we can have a cuppa and look at it on my fiche reader

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I put the details of the burial of John Pearson in my post of 2 April. More in hope than expectancy I sent for a copy of the death certificate which arrived today and which shows John died on 8 May 1840, aged 58 years, in Mushroom Green (cause - liver complaint); it confirms he was a 'Nailer'. The bonus is that it shows his death was registered by his sister-in-law, MARY DUNN, who was in attendance at the time of his death. :grin:

There is a DUNN family shown in the 1841 census living next door to widow Harriott Pearson in Mushroom Green, including a Joseph and his wife, Mary, but she seems a bit young to be a sister. From BCC this Mary seems to be Mary Vaughan but I cannot find any evidence she had a sister, Harriott.

Can anyone help to take this further to confirm Harriott's identity.
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nailer2011 wrote:I put the details of the burial of John Pearson in my post of 2 April. More in hope than expectancy I sent for a copy of the death certificate which arrived today and which shows John died on 8 May 1840, aged 58 years, in Mushroom Green (cause - liver complaint); it confirms he was a 'Nailer'. The bonus is that it shows his death was registered by his sister-in-law, MARY DUNN, who was in attendance at the time of his death. :grin:

There is a DUNN family shown in the 1841 census living next door to widow Harriott Pearson in Mushroom Green, including a Joseph and his wife, Mary, but she seems a bit young to be a sister. From BCC this Mary seems to be Mary Vaughan but I cannot find any evidence she had a sister, Harriott.

Can anyone help to take this further to confirm Harriott's identity.
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Given that (in theory) they rounded the ages down to nearest multiple of 5 in 1841 Harriett could have been just 55 while Mary could have been just short of 35 and so the difference would have been "only" 20 years -- certainly not that unusual in those days -- especially if the father remarried and it was actually a half sister
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So Joseph could be the brother of Harriet
and then Mary would still be sister in law
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