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Re: Clifford Willetts OBE?--------------being worked on....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:21 am
by FarSide
I see one of them..
Extracted
THOMAS BILLS
Christening: 31 OCT 1828 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire
Parents:
Father: THOMAS BILLS
Mother: HANNAH

and looking at that 41 again - William Bloomer is Miram Bloomer age is in the female col.
Thomas Bells 40
Hannah Bells 33
Thomas Bells 15
Benjm Bells 15
Thomas Bells 10
Daniel Bells 10
Stephen Bells 5
Mary Bells 5
Ann Bells 3
John Bells 1
William Bloomer 8 MO

Re: Clifford Willetts OBE?--------------being worked on....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:23 am
by mallosa
Thanks FS, I'll add that now :wink:

Re: Clifford Willetts OBE?--------------being worked on....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:55 am
by FarSide
All Vicars notes on BCC

Off on a tangent...
That Miriam Bloomer I think she was 5 or 8
Class: HO107; Piece 1197; Book: 8; Civil Parish: Hales Owen

Extracted
MIRIAM BLOOMER
Christening: 29 JAN 1837 Cradley, Worcester
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM BLOOMER
Mother: SARAH

Poss
WILLIAM BLOOMER
Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH FORREST
Marriage: 16 MAY 1830 Kingswinford, Stafford

Kingswinford PR
16 May 1830
William Bloomer, otp & Sarah Forrest, otp
by banns John A. Baxter
Wit - Samuel Forrest & John Ireland

1851
Cradley bridge, Cradley
William Bloomer 44 - Forgeman in iron works
Sarah Bloomer 41
Pheobe Bloomer 18 - Dressmaker
Miriam Bloomer 14 - assistant to ?dress
William Bloomer 12
Samuel Bloomer 9
Giles Bloomer 4 - b Northfield
Sarah Bloomer 2 - b Northfield
others b Cradley

next door
Pheobe Forrest 74 - widow - Housekeeper - b Kingswinford
Samuel Forrest 43 - widow - Horse nailmaker - b Cradley (poss witness)

Re: Clifford Willetts OBE?--------------being worked on....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:02 am
by mallosa
Is this her?

(Extracted)
MIRIAM BLOOMER
Christening: 29 JAN 1837 Cradley, Worcester, England
Father: WILLIAM BLOOMER
Mother: SARAH

Living next door to Phoebe Forest 74 Wid

1851: Nr Cradley Bridge (next to New Road) Cradley, Worc
William Bloomer 44 Head Forgeman in Iron Works
Sarah Bloomer 41 Wife<br>
Pheobe Bloomer 18 Dau Dressmaker
Miriam Bloomer 14 Dau Assistant to above
William Bloomer 12 Son
Samuel Bloomer 9 Son
Giles Bloomer 4 Son Northfield, Worc
Sarah Bloomer 2 Son Northfield Worc
(others born Cradley, Worc)

1841: New Road, Halesowen, Worc
William Bloomer 30 Forgeman
Sarah Bloomer 30
Phebe Bloomer 8 Nailor (her age isn't clear, could it be 18?)
William Bloomer 24 Nailor

Re: Clifford Willetts OBE?--------------being worked on....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:09 am
by mallosa
Thanks FS :grin:

Better get some beauty sleep (I need it) :lol:

Re: Clifford Willetts OBE?--------------being worked on....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:16 am
by FarSide

Re: Clifford Willetts OBE?--------------being worked on....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:56 am
by FarSide
1851 next door
Pheobe Forrest 74 - widow - Housekeeper - b Kingswinford
Samuel Forrest 43 - widow - Horse nailmaker - b Cradley (poss witness)


1841: New Road, Halesowen, Worc
William Bloomer 30 Forgeman
Sarah Bloomer 30
Phebe Bloomer 8 Nailor (her age isn't clear, could it be 18?)
William Bloomer 24 Nailor


same page
1841
Parliment, Cradley
Samuel Forrest 60 - Nailer
Phebe Forrest 65
Mary Forrest 16
same house
Samuel Forrest 30 - Nailer
Joseph Forrest 20 - Nailer
John Willits 8
all b Cradley

I don't see a birth for Sarah Forrest with parents Samuel & Phebe anywhere
poss relationship is cousin rather than sibs..
then there's a Samuel as witness.. and the notebook says Samuel Forrest is bro in law of William Bloomer

Notebook has
1857
Back Lane
# 522
Forrest
Samuel, nailer, no church or seldom, pew
Evan Robinson, 19, son of 441a
amat Harriet Cox 403

next door
# 523
Bloomer
William, iron, widower, no church, pew, brother in law of 522
Mira, 28, teaches school (poss Miriam)
William, 20, Iron, teaches school
Samuel, 16, clerk, school, one arm, teaches night school
Giles, 12, iron, school

Re: Clifford Willetts OBE?--------------being worked on....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:45 pm
by Northern Lass
bit lost on this now

so is this all on and connected?

if so do I archive?

did the forrests all connect up?

Re: Arc tbc................Clifford Willetts OBE

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:26 pm
by mallosa
No, still got to add Forrests info but aint got time now so can you leave for a while?

Re: Clifford Willetts OBE?--------------being worked on....

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:56 am
by mallosa
FarSide wrote:
same page
1841
Parliment, Cradley
Samuel Forrest 60 - Nailer
Phebe Forrest 65
Mary Forrest 16
same house
Samuel Forrest 30 - Nailer
Joseph Forrest 20 - Nailer
John Willits 8
all b Cradley

I don't see a birth for Sarah Forrest with parents Samuel & Phebe anywhere
poss relationship is cousin rather than sibs..
then there's a Samuel as witness.. and the notebook says Samuel Forrest is bro in law of William Bloomer

Notebook has
1857
Back Lane
# 522
Forrest
Samuel, nailer, no church or seldom, pew
Evan Robinson, 19, son of 441a
amat Harriet Cox 403

next door
# 523
Bloomer
William, iron, widower, no church, pew, brother in law of 522
Mira, 28, teaches school (poss Miriam)
William, 20, Iron, teaches school
Samuel, 16, clerk, school, one arm, teaches night school
Giles, 12, iron, school


Not sure I can add any of the Forrest info above, what do you think FS?

Re: Clifford Willetts OBE------------Mally working on

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:03 pm
by FarSide
Not sure I can add any of the Forrest info above, what do you think FS?


I can't say for sure that Sarah Forrest is the kid of Samuel & Phebe, haven't found her bap.. tho I do believe she's their daug.

I will add Vicars notes to William Bloomer re Samuel next door been bro in law.

Should I add Samuel Forrest's lot as a separate family with note re Sarah..


same page
1841
Parliment, Cradley
Samuel Forrest 60 - Nailer
Phebe Forrest 65
Mary Forrest 16
same house
Samuel Forrest 30 - Nailer
Joseph Forrest 20 - Nailer
John Willits 8
all b Cradley

I don't see a birth for Sarah Forrest with parents Samuel & Phebe anywhere
poss relationship is cousin rather than sibs..
then there's a Samuel as witness.. and the notebook says Samuel Forrest is bro in law of William Bloomer

Notebook has
1857
Back Lane
# 522
Forrest
Samuel, nailer, no church or seldom, pew
Evan Robinson, 19, son of 441a
amat Harriet Cox 403

next door
# 523
Bloomer
William, iron, widower, no church, pew, brother in law of 522
Mira, 28, teaches school (poss Miriam)
William, 20, Iron, teaches school
Samuel, 16, clerk, school, one arm, teaches night school
Giles, 12, iron, school


Re: Clifford Willetts OBE------------Mally working on

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:19 pm
by mallosa
FarSide wrote:
Should I add Samuel Forrest's lot as a separate family with note re Sarah..



Yes, I think that's best :wink: