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Hi NL, I found Mesach in 1861 living in Dog Lane Halesowen, that is now Church Lane. RG 09 2064 ED 15 Sch 37

Ann White HD Widow 49
Mary A White DA U 26
Rhoda White DA 19
Elijah White Son 16
Sarah White DA 13
William B Plant Grandson 2
Meshach Hacket Lodger U 18

Next door is:-
Joseph Hackett 49
Mary 45
Joseph 8
Charles 6

peterd wrote:dont know if this will help

1881 census

10 Market St Blkheath Rowley Regis, Stafford,


Meshach HACKETT 38 Rowley, Stafford, Ironmonger
Hannah HACKETT 37 Halesowen, Worcester,
Roseannah HACKETT 17 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Mary Ann HACKETT 15 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Sarah Jane HACKETT 13 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Alice HACKETT 8 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Meshack HACKETT 5 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Thomas HACKETT 2 Rowley, Stafford,
Emma ANDREWS Neice 17 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
William ANDREWS Nephew 8 m Rowley, Stafford,

I think this must be him in 1881 that Peter found, the age is the same?

Ann White is in Dog Lane in 1851, also a Francis Bradley?

William White HD M 41 Nailer Halesowen
Ann Wife 40 Halesowen
Fanny DA U 19 Halesowen
Marian DA U 16 Halesowen
Solomon Son 14 Halesowen
Anna DA 12 Halesowen
Elijah Son 7 Kingswinford
Sarah DA 4 Halesowen

HTH linell.

Just to add a bit more. I have a Hellen/Ellen White born about 1844 Halesowen, she was bought up by her Hackett Grandparents, Thomas born 1799 and Harriet in Halesowen. Just wondered if Ellen could be Ellen Hackett? Harriet Hackett was nee White, she had 4 children with her first husband Edward White, the two sons I think died young? Phoebe White born 1816 married Henry White, they are in Islington with a load of children. There was another daughter Ann born 1824, Ellen could be the illegitimate daughter of Ann? If Ellen grew up with her Hackett Grandparents, she may have well called herself Hackett rather than White? This does not say who Benjamin was of course, being as he was dead by the time Ellen Married he could have been a figment of her imagination? Best Wishes linell.

I think that Ellen may marry a Thomas yates. Someone on ances has the tree..

1864
WHITE Ellen YATES Thomas Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/003/143

I found Bradney they are neighbours to Joseph Stokes in 1841 and later.

The only thing I wondered is if that Richard Hackett living near these Whites in 1841 might have been significant..but then gave up..
he marries a jane Craddock and then I lost the plot

Greetings NL, I will have to check out the Marriage of Ellen White to Thomas Yates see who she puts down as her father? Catch u later from linell.

linell wrote:Hi NL, I found Mesach in 1861 living in Dog Lane Halesowen, that is now Church Lane. RG 09 2064 ED 15 Sch 37

Ann White HD Widow 49
Mary A White DA U 26
Rhoda White DA 19
Elijah White Son 16
Sarah White DA 13
William B Plant Grandson 2
Meshach Hacket Lodger U 18

Next door is:-
Joseph Hackett 49
Mary 45
Joseph 8
Charles 6

There has got to be something in this lot here as to why Meshach is living with them in 1861.
Ann is an Ann Partridge I think
She marries a William White.

Who is that Joseph Hackett next door!
I think his father is a Charles Hackett.

Going back I did find a William White married a Nancy Hackett...

Hi Linell stick it on the look ups if you like and I will look it up when I go that Yates one.

Hi Lin'

I have copied RG9; Piece: 2064; Folio: 135; Page: 18 below with the overlaps from Pages 17 & 19 which are obviously of your line

Any further requests of these should be sort through Census, Civil & Parish Registration Lookup Request

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Marriages Mar 1841

GRAINGER Thomas Dudley 18 298
HACKETT Elizabeth Dudley 18 298
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Marriages Mar 1861

Hackett Sarah Stourbridge 6c 179
Bayliss Samuel Stourbridge 6c 179
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1861
RG9; Piece: 2064; Folio: 135;
Page: 17

Birmingham Street, Halesowen, Worcestershire
Eliza Grainger Widow-Head 49 Halesowen, Worcestershire Green Grocer Fruiterer
William Grainger Son 26 Halesowen, Worcestershire
Samuel Hackett Grandson 4 Halesowen, Worcestershire
Eliza Basterfield Visitor 8 Halesowen, Worcestershire
Page: 18
Joseph Tether Lodger 20 Halesowen, Worcestershire
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Page: 18; 1861
Yorks Yard, Birmingham Street, Halesowen, Worcestershire

Benjamin White Head 62 Halesowen, Worcestershire Bricklayer's Labourer
Charlotte White Wife 51 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Maker
Thomas White Daughter 16 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Maker
Priscilla Hackett Boarder Unmar. 22 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Maker
Eliza Hackett Boarder's Daughter 1 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Maker
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Joseph Hackett Head 27 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Maker
Mary Ann Hackett Wife 26 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Maker
Thomas Hackett Son 8 Halesowen, Worcestershire
Elizabeth Hackett Son 4 Halesowen, Worcestershire
William Hackett Son 1 Halesowen, Worcestershire
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Samuel Bayliss Head 34 Halesowen, Worcestershire Labourer
Sarah Bayliss Wife 36 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Maker
Fanny Hackett Daughter 14 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Maker
Myra Hacket t Daughter 12 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Maker
Emma Hackett Daughter 9 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Maker
Emma Sawyer Niece 15 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Maker
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Henry Hackett Head 37 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Maker
Ellen Hackett Wife 37 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Maker
John Hackett 14 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Maker
William Hackett 12 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Maker
Myra Hackett 9 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Maker
Page: 19
Henry Hackett 7 Halesowen, Worcestershire
Alfred Hackett 5 Halesowen, Worcestershire
Sarah Ann Hackett Daughter 1 Halesowen, Worcestershire
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Marriages Dec 1866

HACKETT Priscilla Stourbridge 6c 286
Possible spouses
GRANGER William Stourbridge 6c 286
Barnsley Joseph Stourbridge 6c 286
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I think that Joseph Hackett in 1861 has a father Charles but cant find a bapt only one that dies in 1824!

Wonder where this Joseph is in 1851?
He must link to Meshach somehow...

I think that marriage of Joseph and Mary is possibly a 2nd marriage
Those kids Joseph and Charles are so young
I am wondering if the marriage with father Benjamin on is mistranscribed?
Is joseph his father?
Just throwing these in to the pot!

Hi Lass

As you're Moderator/Admin can i sugest you split this topic at viewtopic.php?f=29&t=811&p=7361#p7359 and enter it into Lookups

Hi Alec
Thanks for your input
I don't see the need to split it at the moment.
The way we do this is we run on a thread and see what comes out of it.
I am normally the one that does the look ups and so it is up to the people concerned to ask for a relevant look up.
And post in the relevant section.
I then do what I can when I can.

So for the moment we will run this topic and everyone can chip in and something will rise to the surface it normally does

Not sure which Joseph we are chasing, but this may help
1851
85
Islington Rd, Halesowen
William Evans 40 - b Hasbury
Anne Evans 38 - b Curtis Lane
Henry Evans 14
Anne Evans 12
Joseph Hackett 41 - Lodger unmarried
others b Halesowen, Chainmaker

1841
Islington, Halesowen
Charles Hackett 70
Mary Hackett 70
Joseph Hackett 25
all b in c, Chainmakers

Hi FS

The Joseph is that one living next door to Meshach in 1861.
He is b abt 1812 age 49 in 1861.

The trouble is in this area Hackett is one of the most common names.

Hi NL, my Joseph born about 1809 didn't die in 1824, just goes to show how wrong the IGI can be. He is in Islington in 1841 with Charles and Mary aged 25. In 1851 there is a Joseph Hackett aged 41 Lodging with a Wm Evans and family, is this him, his age seems to be all over the place, he is Unmarried, if this is him he can't be Meshach's Dad?? In 1861 he is in Dog Lane aged 49 and Mary is a Widow by 1871.

Mary has been Married before, think she was Mary Brooks, Married Joseph in 1852. On the 1871 Census Mary is still in Dog Lane, HD Wid aged 53 born Hill Halesowen. Joseph aged 19 and Charles aged 15. Also Mary's daughter Maria Mucklow Widow with children Sarah aged 8 Joseph aged 5 and Wm J. 7 months. Will have another look tomorrow, best wishes from linell.

So wonder if Meshach is a sort of baptism name?

Did he have another name before?
Is Joseph his uncle?
lots of sibs for Joseph...parents Charles and Mary.

I suppose Mary could be the mother?
Wonder if it is possible to find her on the 1841?

This may be worth a look up..I will put them on the list!


1852
HACKETT Joseph BROOKES Mary Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/012/65
HACKETT Joseph HODGETTS Mary Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/011/381

rite who is that Maria Mucklow the dau of Mary in 1871?
What is her maiden name?
that will give Mary the mothers name - married but even so might help...might not.

the only one I am getting up is the name Yates and of course the name Yates featured before in the name for Ellen White dau of Ann White - was she dau of Harriet White and then brought up by her Hackett Grandparents