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louloubaby162 wrote:I have the marriage certificate for Edwin and Mary.
Witness John Arnold was a lodger.

Can someone list the 1841 census for Benjamin Johnson pls.

Do you think that going on the evidence i have that i am on the right track with this Edwin.

I sent for the Edwin Johnson born 1839 Dudley, but it did not match any of my information the father was listed as John Johnson. Address was nowhere near all my other family.

are the details on that marriage certif correct for edwin that Farside posted pls lou lou
save me looking them up

who was the other witness?

8 May 1870
Edwin Johnson F B Carter Cradley Heath William Johnson Dealer
Mary Boswell M S Netherton John Boswell Engineer
Witnesses John Arnold, ?

Who was the other witness on the marriage cert?

1841
New Street, Rowley
Benjamin Johnson 62 - Nailm
Mary Johnson 58
John Johnson 30
Phebe Johnson 23
Benjamin Johnson 20
Samuel Johnson 16
Edwin Johnson 2
all b in c

also on the same page are the witness's to Phebe's marriage to Barber
Elijah Haden & Elizabeth nee Watchhorn

Phoebe states spinister on marriage
1 Nov 1841
Henry Barber, X, of full age, bach, Miner of Garratts Lane, s of Robert a Shoemaker
Phoebe Johnson, X, of full age, sp of Garratts Lane, d of Benjamin a Nailer
by banns
Wit - Elijah Haden, Elizabeth Haden, X

8 May 1870
Edwin Johnson F B Carter Cradley Heath William Johnson Dealer
Mary Boswell M S Netherton John Boswell Engineer
Witnesses John Arnold, ?

This is correct for the cerifitcate that i have.

I have traced my family tree quite far on all other lines of my family, including the Boswells, but i am stuck with my Johnson line.It is get very frustrating. I have been doing this now in 2009!!

I will check tonight who the other witness was.
Thanks everyone

Going to flag for help adding the census for Edwin
and Mary Boswell

and that marriage

if you can let us know the other wit when you see it that would be great


There are quite a few unnamed Johnson births in RR
might be worth contacting the Regis office and say you are looking for a boy
born 2 years sweep of 1840 mother Phebe and see what they say

I will add.
Jo

Thanks Jo will put yer little star on yer

On 1891 census there is a John Smart living with Mary.

She married him in 1892.
They are together on the 1901 and 1911 census. With a daughter Gertie Smart.

Edwin died somewhere between 1881 and 1891, Can anyone help with a death record or buriel? Will this have his mother and father on?

Henry Barber census added
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ber-Family

Edwin Johnson, census and children added
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... son-Family

louloubaby162 wrote:On 1891 census there is a John Smart living with Mary.

She married him in 1892.
They are together on the 1901 and 1911 census. With a daughter Gertie Smart.

Edwin died somewhere between 1881 and 1891, Can anyone help with a death record or buriel? Will this have his mother and father on?

No the death certificate will have the informant on it.

Do you have the other marriage info? If so if you put it here I will add it to her
Jo

1901. 36 Dudley Wood, Dudley
John Smart, head, 31, Chain maker,
Mary, wife, 46, West Bromwich
William johnson, son, 18, Block Chainmaker
Noah Boswell, relative, 16, Bricklayers labourer
Gertrude Smart, daur, 9
All others born Cradley heath

IGI
02 NOV 1892 Mary Boswell Johnson & John Smart
Parish Church Of Reddal-Hill, , Stafford, England (St Lukes)

The other witness to Edwin and Mary's marriage was Isabella Wall.

This name has not come up in my tree so far?

FS ?

Phoebe states spinister on marriage
1 Nov 1841
Henry Barber, X, of full age, bach, Miner of Garratts Lane, s of Robert a Shoemaker
Phoebe Johnson, X, of full age, sp of Garratts Lane, d of Benjamin a Nailer
by banns
Wit - Elijah Haden, Elizabeth Haden, X

Is this from transcripts this information?

grangers14 wrote:FS ?

Phoebe states spinister on marriage
1 Nov 1841
Henry Barber, X, of full age, bach, Miner of Garratts Lane, s of Robert a Shoemaker
Phoebe Johnson, X, of full age, sp of Garratts Lane, d of Benjamin a Nailer
by banns
Wit - Elijah Haden, Elizabeth Haden, X

Is this from transcripts this information?

RR PR

Ive added that marriage information..

Ive started a thread with Boswell family, if you have anything you can add to that loulou I will add it.

Other than that everything is on now I think. Still looking as though Edwin didnt really have a father.
Jo