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Just seeing where we are with this one?

I think that birth certif is the way to go with it.

The only thing I found were 2 bapts for a Martha and Mary Hodgetts both bapt same day
parents William and Maria

Mary Hodgetts - International Genealogical Index
Female Christening: 09 MAY 1842 St Martin'S, Tipton, Stafford,

Martha Hodgetts - International Genealogical Index
Female Christening: 09 MAY 1842 St Martin'S, Tipton, Stafford,

let us know how you get on if you send for it Kathy

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hi, I am wondering about the birth cert for mary hodgetts, I was going to send for this one, which was the one that seemed nearest, what do you think.
Births Jun 1840
Hodgetts Mary W Bromwich 18 529

If you can let me know hat you think I will send fo the cert straight away

Thanks
Kathy

Hi it must be the same one as this one

1840
HODGETTS Mary Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/3/56

you can send off to the Sandwell regis office or you can go via GRO

if you go via either say you only want if mother is Mary
that is what I would do

Hi, I have sent for the 1840 cert, so will know within the week who os named as marys father. But had a though today, if Marths birth record states her father as deceased then he could only have died within the 9 month earlier. It could be that his death was recorded at the same church as Marths christening took place. I wonder if anyone can do a lookup for the death of William Hodgetts, this may be another way to rule out or confirm he existed. What do you think.

Kathy

How do you know that William is father to Martha it only said deceased no William

You need to know the church for a look up.
as so many churches.

I am wondering if that W'ton one could well be the marriage
as locks was the product for that area.
and on Phebes marriage he is not down as deceased...but!! that doesnt mean that much I see so many records where they are not down as deceased but upon checking are dead.

I wonder if he did actually die
and she maybe just left him
so martha puts down dead
and mary puts down william but on her marriage the first one does she say he is deceased...cos that would be very interesting.

Maybe he was still alive and that is why Mary Hodgetts ma couldnt marry William Siviter?

Hi, well there are a lot of maybe's so I will wait untill the cert arrives and see how to go from there, it may be the end of the line and I may never know if Mary was married or not.
Thnaks again
Kathy

I can't wait to find out... do let us know China girl

Hi
The birth cert for Mary came today and it is not for my Mary
Here are the details

West Bromwich Oldbury Counties of Salop and Worcester
19 April 1840
Mary Daughter of Benjamin Hodgetts, he was a butcher
Mother Mary Hodgetts formely Hodgetts (this seems odd)
Address Langley Row Oldbury.

So if is not who I am looking for where do I look next? Has anyone any ideas. If it was at all possible a parish record lookup might be better, if I could narrow down the birth.

Any help or advice would be welcome
Cheers
Kathy

That is a shame CG....

Have we this family on the census just to exclude them....
I know it should be William Hodgetts ....but who knows....

we need to look at this and go thru it again re father and who the daus of Mary do and dont put on the marriage..

Ok Eh? team can we look at this for CG?

let's crack it !

Hi all, I have tried looking for other children on the IGI to Benjamin and Mary, there are a few and none match with the names I have on Siviter and Mary as in 1841 census.

It seems a shame to come so far and be stuck, its a funny affair, I still have a feeling mother Mary had been married before, she may have been widowed or just up and left.

I still do not have a birth for Mary, Martha, or Phebe Hodgetts, they dont seem to be on the IGI, which is odd for th area. If anyone can find a birth for any of them it might solve the problem, but where to look I do not know. If anyone can help please do.

Thanks for all your help

Kathy

Ok China girl this has got Brick wall written all over it so rather than archiving this moving it there.
See if we can crack it hopefully soon for you

Hi, thanks, I am not expecting to get anywhere with this but is worth a try. Brick Walls, who needs them, lets hope someone can break through it.

thanks
Kathy

Is this still a Brick Wall?
Or have you solved it?

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Hi all, I have not very much on the family history for a while, to many brick walls. Yes this is still one of them. So if anyone ever finds a lead I will go back to them.
Thanks for getting in touch
Kathy

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