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Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:46 pm
by Northern Lass
I just don't know
I really don't want to spend some money!
but might have to with this marriage
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:50 pm
by Jimmy
Don't spend your money just wait and see.
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:08 pm
by Jimmy
I wonder what areas of Stourbridge WBMD out of these don't cover.
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/dist ... ridge.html
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:17 am
by Jimmy
Northern Lass wrote:Jimmy wrote:1871. Rowley Regis.
Edward Tromans 39. Nailer.
Philis Tromans 28.
Harriot Tromans 7.
Thomas Tromans 5.
Hannah Tromans 3.
Mary Ann Tromans 2.
Edith Tromans 2 Weeks.
Comfort Suiter 15. Niece.
All born Rowley Regis.
If this is Phillis Siveter, then Comfort is Edwards sister in law, not niece.
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:18 pm
by Maths girl
Jimmy wrote:Northern Lass wrote:Jimmy wrote:1871. Rowley Regis.
Edward Tromans 39. Nailer.
Philis Tromans 28.
Harriot Tromans 7.
Thomas Tromans 5.
Hannah Tromans 3.
Mary Ann Tromans 2.
Edith Tromans 2 Weeks.
Comfort Suiter 15. Niece.
All born Rowley Regis.
If this is Phillis Siveter, then Comfort is Edwards sister in law, not niece.
Perhaps given the age difference he felt he had been introduced as "Uncle" and it stuck -- I know I had a great number of "Aunty"s and "Uncle"s when I was younger -- it was used to offer respect for age to those who were more than an acquaintance ie Mr/Mrs even when there was no blood realtionship at all.
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:23 pm
by Northern Lass
I do agree with that MG
I think that is our Phyllis
the church may be Quinton?
I better get the certif
so if I send for the Edward Tromans one and father for Phyllis is not Wm
we know that the other Phyllis married to reuben has parents Wm and eliz
which I think looks good too!
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:48 pm
by Northern Lass
I have ordered it
but I wonder if that Edward Tromans is another Edward Tromans
that maybe links to the William Tromans that married Ann Mason
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=37519030cos on same day Letitia mason and Joseph adams married
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:43 pm
by westbromval
i have them on the 1881 cenus liveing at 27 rowey village
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:12 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:1881.
Edward TROMANS Head M Male 49 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Nail Maker
Phillis TROMANS Wife M Female 38 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Nail Maker
Harriet TROMANS Daur U Female 18 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Nail Maker
Thomas TROMANS Son U Male 15 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Labourer At Pottery
Edith TROMANS Daur Female 10 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Caroline TROMANS Daur Female 8 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Mathew TROMANS Son Male 6 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Samuel TROMANS Son Male 1 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
27 Rowley Village.
Rowley Regis, Stafford.
this one val
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:19 pm
by westbromval
do you still think phillis was a bowater
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:32 pm
by Jimmy
I think she was a Siviter.
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:40 pm
by Antie Em
Northern Lass wrote:I do agree with that MG
I think that is our Phyllis
the church may be Quinton?
I better get the certif
so if I send for the Edward Tromans one and father for Phyllis is not Wm
we know that the other Phyllis married to reuben has parents Wm and eliz
which I think looks good too!
The records for Christ Church in Quinton (Stourbridge Reg Office) are held in Birmingham Archives - if anyone is going.
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:55 am
by Northern Lass
Ok guys ordered this one so will now archive this and bring back thread with certif info
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:53 pm
by Northern Lass
Ok got the certif for marriage
really weird
it is Phillis Bowater.....father Mathew Siviter
so it is this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =775643714and this is Edward
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnectionsI will connect up
but why on earth is she bowater on that marriage
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:58 pm
by Northern Lass
westbromval wrote:1861 stourbridge he mother was elizabeth smith and william bowater
Val you need to adjust your records
the 1861 marriage is father Mathew siviter for Phillis bowater
the one married in 1863 I think is the William and Elizabeth one
which I think fits with ages etc
I have the marriage certif now on this
wits are Jonah Knowles and Phebe Knowles ...phebe is sis to edward tromans