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Re: Can we sort out these Hacketts pls

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:19 am
by Northern Lass
Ok I am getting a bit confused

I have brought those 3 Thomas Samuel and Nancy together here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =167364735

so do we think that they are one family and can any others be added to them?

Re: Can we sort out these Hacketts pls

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:31 am
by Northern Lass
dianel wrote:IGI Extracted:
HACKETT
Father: Joseph , Mother: Mary

THOMAS HACKETT - Christening: 24 FEB 1793 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
SAMUEL HACKETT - Christening: 29 DEC 1793 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
SARAH HACKETT - Christening: 25 NOV 1794 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
JOSEPH HACKETT - Christening: 15 OCT 1797 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
NANCY HACKETT - Christening: 10 JUN 1804 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
RAGUEL HACKETT - Male Christening: 25 DEC 1804 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England


But we have 2 Thomas's

one is with Ragan in 1861 b abt 1793
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =157170888

the other is sib of Samuel and Nancy living near them married to Sophia and bapt 1802
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =157170888

so which other ones do we think go together?

Re: Can we sort out these Hacketts pls

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:15 pm
by dianel
Northern Lass wrote:
dianel wrote:IGI Extracted:
HACKETT
Father: Joseph , Mother: Mary

THOMAS HACKETT - Christening: 24 FEB 1793 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
SAMUEL HACKETT - Christening: 29 DEC 1793 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
SARAH HACKETT - Christening: 25 NOV 1794 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
JOSEPH HACKETT - Christening: 15 OCT 1797 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
NANCY HACKETT - Christening: 10 JUN 1804 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
RAGUEL HACKETT - Male Christening: 25 DEC 1804 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England


But we have 2 Thomas's

one is with Ragan in 1861 b abt 1793
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =157170888

the other is sib of Samuel and Nancy living near them married to Sophia Hannah and bapt 1802
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =157170888

so which other ones do we think go together?

Re: Can we sort out these Hacketts pls

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:14 pm
by Northern Lass
sorry yes Hannah

So we don't know which other poss sibs can be added do we?

I am hacked off with the hacketts

:roll:

Re: Can we sort out these Hacketts pls

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:27 pm
by dianel
Me too. I've been going around in circles all night. It looks like there are 2 Joseph & Mary's both with sons, Thomas. The Thomas b. 1793ish belongs to the family with Ragan in it. And I think he went to live in Kington, Herefordshire.

The Thomas b 1802ish is the brother of Samuel & Nancy.
......

I think!!!

Re: Can we sort out these Hacketts pls

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:33 pm
by Northern Lass
dianel wrote:Me too. I've been going around in circles all night. It looks like there are 2 Joseph & Mary's both with sons, Thomas. The Thomas b. 1793ish belongs to the family with Ragan in it. And I think he went to live in Kington, Herefordshire.

The Thomas b 1802ish is the brother of Samuel & Nancy.
......

I think!!!


I know drives you nuts!!

So we are as far as we can with this at the mo?
What we have we agree on I think re what has been added so far.
I have that marriage for Joseph to look up

It would be good to look up all the marriages for the ones we have as sibs
if anyone has any of the transcripts handy for any of them
see who wits are

Re: Can we sort out these Hacketts pls

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:50 pm
by gardener
As I understand it we have these baptisms all at RR, all with parents Joseph and Mary Hackett.

Thomas 24 Feb 1793
Samuel 29 Dec 1793
Sarah 25 Nov 1794
Joseph 15 Oct 1797
Thomas 18 July 1802
Nancy 10 Jun 1804
Raguel 25 Dec 1804

Plus a Joseph b abt 1807

Samuel, Thomas (1802) and Nancy seem to be living next to each other in Cox's Lane

The other Thomas (1793) is perhaps visiting Ragan in 1861, in Old Hill. And the Joseph born about 1807 and Sarah seem to fit with them as Ragan is used as a name.

So I think I agree with you Diane, two families.

And yes, I think Thomas 1793 went to Kington. I think it must be his son Thomas who has a son Ragne T Hackett, born about 1858.

Re: Can we sort out these Hacketts pls

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:11 pm
by gardener
1841 Kington
Thomas Hackett 40 nailer n
Mary ditto 40 n
William ditto 15 nailer y
Keziah ditto 12 y
Benjamin ditto 11 y
James ditto 9 y

1851 Kington
Thomas Hackett 58 nailer Rowley
Mary ditto wife 58 Rowley
Joseph ditto son u 35 nailer Rowley
Eliza ditto dau u 25 Kington
James son u 21 nailer Kington

1851 Kington
Thomas Hackett 31 nailer Rowley
Hesther ditto wife 24 Kington
William H ditto son 1 ditto
Thomas Price lodger 24 nailer Rowley

1861 Kington
Thomas Hackett 41 master nailer emp 4 men and son Rowley Regis
Esther ditto wife 35
William ditto son 11
Mary Ann ditto dau 9
Jane ditto dau 7
Ragne J ditto son 4
James ditto son 2

Certainly an Old Hill connection as in 1861 Benjamin Hackett in Kington has his brother Joseph aged 46 born Old Hill, staying with him.

Re: Can we sort out these Hacketts pls

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:37 pm
by gardener
So, tow families:



Samuel 29 Dec 1793
Joseph 15 Oct 1797
Thomas 18 July 1802
Nancy 10 Jun 1804

And:

Thomas 24 Feb 1793
Sarah 25 Nov 1794
Raguel 25 Dec 1804
Joseph b abt 1807


Marriages?

Joseph Hackett to Mary Stokes 5th Aug 1792 Kingswinford

Joseph Hackett to Mary Parkes 16 July 1793 Halesowen

both extracted IGI, also one submitted for Rowley Regis 1794 to Mary, Joseph said born 1769.


The Halesowen one has witnesses Richard Fiddian and John Parkes. For what it is worth, there is a submitted entry for Thomas Hackett born Old Hill 1793, parents Joseph Hackett and Mary Parkes. But no relying on that.

Re: Can we sort out these Hacketts pls

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:11 am
by dianel
gardener wrote:So, tow families:



Samuel 29 Dec 1793
Joseph 15 Oct 1797
Thomas 18 July 1802
Nancy 10 Jun 1804

And:

Thomas 24 Feb 1793
Sarah 25 Nov 1794
Raguel 25 Dec 1804
Joseph b abt 1807


Marriages?

Joseph Hackett to Mary Stokes 5th Aug 1792 Kingswinford

Joseph Hackett to Mary Parkes 16 July 1793 Halesowen

both extracted IGI, also one submitted for Rowley Regis 1794 to Mary, Joseph said born 1769.


The Halesowen one has witnesses Richard Fiddian and John Parkes. For what it is worth, there is a submitted entry for Thomas Hackett born Old Hill 1793, parents Joseph Hackett and Mary Parkes. But no relying on that.


IF these 2 marriages are our 2 families, then the timing makes it likely that they line up thus:

Joseph Hackett to Mary Stokes 5th Aug 1792 Kingswinford
Children:
Thomas 24 Feb 1793
Sarah 25 Nov 1794
Raguel 25 Dec 1804
Joseph b abt 1807

Joseph Hackett to Mary Parkes 16 July 1793 Halesowen
Children:
Samuel 29 Dec 1793
Joseph 15 Oct 1797
Thomas 18 July 1802
Nancy 10 Jun 1804

But it's too close to call.

Re: Can we sort out these Hacketts pls

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:08 am
by Northern Lass
If anyone wishes to add those marriages in notes on BCC pls do :grin:

I am now flagging this to archive it
thanks all