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Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:39 pm
by Northern Lass
Northern Lass wrote:MARY RUSSELL TRUMANS
Birth: 30 JAN 1864
Christening: 20 MAR 1864 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM TRUMANS
Mother: ANN MARIA Extracted
WILLIAM TRUMANS Birth: 23 DEC 1853
Christening: 30 AUG 1857 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM TRUMANS
Mother: ANN MARIA Extracted
THOMAS TRUMANS Birth: 09 AUG 1857
Christening: 30 AUG 1857 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM TRUMANS
Mother: ANN MARIA
Extracted
JOSEPH TRUMAN
Birth: 06 APR 1860
Christening: 29 APR 1860 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM TRUMAN
Mother: ANN MARIA
Messages:
Extracted
I think that this lot are ours
if Mary Russell Tromans is sister to Wm Tromans that marries Eliza derbyshire
then the above bapts all are same family
and if they are the same family
then that Tipton family fit the bill for Wm, Thomas and Joseph
I have that Wm and Eliza marriage down for look up
and that will be interesting to see if Wms father is a wm Frederick or not
Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:07 pm
by Northern Lass
Northern Lass wrote:There is this one but not sure
1851 Dudley Port Tipton
William Troman 27 labourer b Dudley
Ann Troman 25
James Troman 2
1861 Dudley Wood Tipton
William Troman 37 h m Labourer in Iron mines B Staffs Rowley
Ann M Troman 36
James Troman 13
Ann Troman 8
William Troman 7
Thomas Troman 3
Joseph Troman 1
all others born Tipton
Can we find this lot on the 1871 and later census pls
Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:30 pm
by Jimmy
1881. 47 Burnt Tree. Tipton.
William Truman 59. Iron Stone Burner. Rowley.
Ann M. Truman 58. Tipton.
Thomas Truman 23. Son. Mar.
Alice J. Truman 20. wife.
George T. Truman 1. Grandson.
Ann Russell 77. Mother in law.
Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:33 pm
by Jimmy
1871. 47 Burnt Tree. Tipton.
William Surman 48. Lab. looks like Truman on image.
Ann M Surman 47.
Ann Surman 19.
William Surman 16.
Thomas Surman 13.
Mary Surman 7.
Joseph Bowen 21. Son in law.
Ann Russell 66. Widow.
Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:49 pm
by Northern Lass
That is them isnt it!
Can we find this William on any later census pls
Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:08 pm
by Northern Lass
Can you see a marriage
William Tromans to Ann m Russell?
Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:21 pm
by Jimmy
No.
Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:26 pm
by Northern Lass
Poss William Truman Birth: Village
Christening: 15 MAR 1822 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: James Truman Mother: Jane Truman Extracted
Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:27 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:No.
no nor me
we are close on this one
I think that might be his bapt
where does he say born in all census?
I will look that up in the book min...
Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:30 pm
by Jimmy
1891. Aston.
Harry Salt 24. Lab in arms factory. (Gun) Cannock.
Mary R Salt 27. Tipton.
Gertrude C Salt 5. Aston.
Hilda G Salt 2/12.
Ann M Trueman 65. Mother in law. Widow. Living on own means. Tipton.
Thomas Hall 37.
Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:38 pm
by Northern Lass
Northern Lass wrote:Poss William Truman Birth: Village
Christening: 15 MAR 1822 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: James Truman Mother: Jane Truman Extracted
nailer on transcript
Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:44 pm
by Northern Lass
Is this James
JAMES RUSSELL Birth: JUN 1850
Christening: 30 JUN 1850 Coseley In Sedgley, ,
Parents:
Mother: ANN RUSSELL Extracted
is there a birth for a James Troman
Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:13 pm
by Northern Lass
I can't see a William Tromans on BCC that fits
born about 1822 Rowley Regis ( he puts that on 1861)
where is he on 1841?
Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:16 pm
by Northern Lass
Unless we can find a way in to link this Wm we will start him as a new family
I dont think they married
I think that is James the son of Ann Russell
Re: * look ups done* ----Troman Brick wall
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:22 pm
by Jimmy
This one.
1841. Tippetty Green, RR.
James Truman 70. Labourer. P.
Jane Truman 50. Not born in county.
William Truman 15. Nailer.