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Northern Lass wrote:MARY RUSSELL TRUMANS
Birth: 30 JAN 1864

Christening: 20 MAR 1864 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM TRUMANS
Mother: ANN MARIA Extracted



WILLIAM TRUMANS Birth: 23 DEC 1853
Christening: 30 AUG 1857 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM TRUMANS
Mother: ANN MARIA Extracted


THOMAS TRUMANS Birth: 09 AUG 1857
Christening: 30 AUG 1857 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM TRUMANS
Mother: ANN MARIA
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JOSEPH TRUMAN
Birth: 06 APR 1860
Christening: 29 APR 1860 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM TRUMAN
Mother: ANN MARIA
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I think that this lot are ours

if Mary Russell Tromans is sister to Wm Tromans that marries Eliza derbyshire
then the above bapts all are same family

and if they are the same family
then that Tipton family fit the bill for Wm, Thomas and Joseph

I have that Wm and Eliza marriage down for look up
and that will be interesting to see if Wms father is a wm Frederick or not
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Northern Lass wrote:There is this one but not sure

1851 Dudley Port Tipton
William Troman 27 labourer b Dudley
Ann Troman 25
James Troman 2


1861 Dudley Wood Tipton
William Troman 37 h m Labourer in Iron mines B Staffs Rowley
Ann M Troman 36
James Troman 13
Ann Troman 8
William Troman 7
Thomas Troman 3
Joseph Troman 1
all others born Tipton


Can we find this lot on the 1871 and later census pls
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1881. 47 Burnt Tree. Tipton.
William Truman 59. Iron Stone Burner. Rowley.
Ann M. Truman 58. Tipton.
Thomas Truman 23. Son. Mar.
Alice J. Truman 20. wife.
George T. Truman 1. Grandson.
Ann Russell 77. Mother in law.
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1871. 47 Burnt Tree. Tipton.
William Surman 48. Lab. looks like Truman on image.
Ann M Surman 47.
Ann Surman 19.
William Surman 16.
Thomas Surman 13.
Mary Surman 7.
Joseph Bowen 21. Son in law.
Ann Russell 66. Widow.
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That is them isnt it!

Can we find this William on any later census pls
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Can you see a marriage
William Tromans to Ann m Russell?
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No.
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Poss William Truman Birth: Village

Christening: 15 MAR 1822 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Parents:
Father: James Truman Mother: Jane Truman Extracted
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Jimmy wrote:No.


no nor me

we are close on this one

I think that might be his bapt
where does he say born in all census?


I will look that up in the book min...
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1891. Aston.
Harry Salt 24. Lab in arms factory. (Gun) Cannock.
Mary R Salt 27. Tipton.
Gertrude C Salt 5. Aston.
Hilda G Salt 2/12.
Ann M Trueman 65. Mother in law. Widow. Living on own means. Tipton.
Thomas Hall 37.
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Northern Lass wrote:Poss William Truman Birth: Village

Christening: 15 MAR 1822 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Parents:
Father: James Truman Mother: Jane Truman Extracted


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Is this James

JAMES RUSSELL Birth: JUN 1850

Christening: 30 JUN 1850 Coseley In Sedgley, ,
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Mother: ANN RUSSELL Extracted

is there a birth for a James Troman
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I can't see a William Tromans on BCC that fits
born about 1822 Rowley Regis ( he puts that on 1861)

where is he on 1841?
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Unless we can find a way in to link this Wm we will start him as a new family

I dont think they married
I think that is James the son of Ann Russell
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This one.

1841. Tippetty Green, RR.
James Truman 70. Labourer. P.
Jane Truman 50. Not born in county.
William Truman 15. Nailer.
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