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Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC*--HOLDEN from Oldbury

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:06 pm
by mallosa
Pete, do you want me to add 1891 - 1911 Census info for Charles and Selina?

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC*--HOLDEN from Oldbury

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:57 pm
by mallosa
Well if you're gonna ignore me, I wont bother :lol:

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC*--HOLDEN from Oldbury

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:03 pm
by peterd
its added

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC*--HOLDEN from Oldbury

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:14 pm
by mallosa
O'k no probs :wink:

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC*--HOLDEN from Oldbury

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:21 pm
by peterd
mallosa wrote:
peterd wrote:1881 Oldbury No 11 Eel St, Oldbury, Worcester

Charles Clifford SOUTHALL 28 Moseley, Worcester, Brick Labourer
Selina SOUTHALL 28 Oldbury, Worcester,
Frances Emily SOUTHALL 6 Oldbury, Worcester, Scholar
Mary Hannah SOUTHALL 1 m Oldbury, Worcester


anyone find later census for these please


1891: 22 Eel Street

Charles Clifford Southall 37 Chemical Labourer Moxley Staffs
Adelina (Selina on image) Southall 38 Wife
William Southall 17 Son Bricklayers Lab
Mary Hannah Southall 10 Dau
Samuel Southall 7 Son
Elizabeth Southall 5 Dau

(Others born Oldbury)




wonder if this is william i think it could be, anyone find a william southall c 1874 in 1881 ?

1881 Oldbury No 12 Eel St, Oldbury, Worcester

Hannah HOLDEN Widow (Head) 59 Tipton, Stafford, Shopkeeper
Joseph HOLDEN 23 Oldbury, Worcester, Blacksmith
William HOLDEN Grandson 9 Oldbury, Worcester, Scholar

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC*--HOLDEN from Oldbury

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:26 pm
by angeliana
In Chronological order here are the other certs I have on HOLDEN family.

29th June 1844 Oldbury Birth Mercy Holden father William a Miner Mother Hannah formerly Hughes

26th May 1852 Oldbury Birth Selina Holden father William a Miner Mother Hannah formerly Hughes

25th November 1860 in Parish Church Dudley Marriage Charles Hayes (minor) a Miner and Rosanna Holden (minor) both resident Dudley. Fathers Thomas Hayes a Furnaceman and William Holden a Miner. Witnesses Hannah Hayes and William Hadley

29th October 1865 in Parish Church Rowley Regis Marriage Samuel Darby a Burner age 20 resident Rounds Green and Mercy Holden age 21 resident Hill St. Fathers Samuel Darby Foreman and William Holden a Miner. Witnesses Charles Hayes and Rosanna Hayes.

12th December 1871 Birth William Holden Mother Selina Holden 4 Eel St Oldbury. No father.

20th December 1902 in Register Office West Bromwich Marriage William Holden age 30 Sergeant Royal Husar Artillery of Morris St West Bromwich and Anne Videan age 24 of 22 Eel St Oldbury. Fathers Charles Clifford Holden a Labourer and Harry Videan a Painter and Decorator, Witnesses Edwin Owen Williams and Selina Hayes.

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC*--HOLDEN from Oldbury

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:36 pm
by angeliana
Sorry I meant to reply to the post about William Southall 1881 census and William Holden 1891 census...they are the same William. As you can see no father on B/C and he calls his father Charles Clifford Holden on M/C.

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC*--HOLDEN from Oldbury

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:18 pm
by Northern Lass
Pete can you add this stuff angeliana has flagged etc
will make this a sticky

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC*--HOLDEN from Oldbury

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:22 pm
by peterd

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC*--HOLDEN from Oldbury

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:25 pm
by peterd
think this is ann william holden wife family

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =564747846

1881 Cambridge Street, Eggaston Villa, Aldershot, Hampshire,

Harry VIDEAN 28 Hartley Row, Hampshire, Bakers Assistant
Ellen J. VIDEAN 28 Bradshot Lea, Surrey,
Ellen J. VIDEAN 2 Bradshot Lea, Surrey,
Annie VIDEAN 1 Aldershot, Hampshire,
Margaret WHELAN Lodger M 40 Ireland Laundress


Anyone find the 1911 census for william and his wife please

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC*--HOLDEN from Oldbury

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:30 pm
by peterd
anyone find any census for rosannah and charles hayes please

bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =835580230

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC*--HOLDEN from Oldbury

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:49 pm
by Annie
What is Williams Occupation please, there are quite a few Williams on the 1911 and can't find one with a Ann as yet.

Annie

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC*--HOLDEN from Oldbury

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:56 pm
by rockyfowler
Annie wrote:What is Williams Occupation please, there are quite a few Williams on the 1911 and can't find one with a Ann as yet.

Annie

20th December 1902 in Register Office West Bromwich Marriage
William Holden age 30 Sergeant Royal Husar Artillery of Morris St West Bromwich
and Anne Videan age 24 of 22 Eel St Oldbury.
Fathers Charles Clifford Holden a Labourer
and Harry Videan a Painter and Decorator,
Witnesses Edwin Owen Williams and Selina Hayes.

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC*--HOLDEN from Oldbury

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:13 pm
by kdw
1861 Eel Street Oldbury
Thams Moss Head 23 Fitter
Maria Moss Wife 23
William Moss Son 52
Thomas Moss Son 3 Mo
Charles Hayes Lodger 19 Coal Miner
Rosannah Hayes 19 Miners Wife
William Hayes Son 2 Mo
All born Oldbury

1871 11 Eel Street Oldbury
Charles Hayes Head 29 Miner
Rosannah Hayes Wife 27
Charles Hayes Son 8
Willm Hayes Son 5
Sarah A Hayes Daur. 2
All born Oldbury

1881 No 2 Court Hurst Street Oldbury
Charles Hayes Head 39 Coal Miner Born Whiteheath
Rose Hannah Hayes Wife 39 Born Oldbury
Charles Hayes Son 18 Miners Labourer Born Oldbury
William Hayes Son 15 Miners Labourer Born West Bromwich
Sarah H. Hayes Daur. 13 Born Oldbury
Harriett Hayes Daur. 9 Scholar Born Oldbury
Thomas Hayes Son 6 Scholar Born Oldbury
Mary A. Hayes Daur. 4 Born Oldbury
Jane Hayes Daur. 1 Born Oldbury

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC*--HOLDEN from Oldbury

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:54 pm
by peterd
kdw wrote:1861 Eel Street Oldbury
Thams Moss Head 23 Fitter
Maria Moss Wife 23
William Moss Son 52
Thomas Moss Son 3 Mo
Charles Hayes Lodger 19 Coal Miner
Rosannah Hayes 19 Miners Wife
William Hayes Son 2 Mo
All born Oldbury

1871 11 Eel Street Oldbury
Charles Hayes Head 29 Miner
Rosannah Hayes Wife 27
Charles Hayes Son 8
Willm Hayes Son 5
Sarah A Hayes Daur. 2
All born Oldbury

1881 No 2 Court Hurst Street Oldbury
Charles Hayes Head 39 Coal Miner Born Whiteheath
Rose Hannah Hayes Wife 39 Born Oldbury
Charles Hayes Son 18 Miners Labourer Born Oldbury
William Hayes Son 15 Miners Labourer Born West Bromwich
Sarah H. Hayes Daur. 13 Born Oldbury
Harriett Hayes Daur. 9 Scholar Born Oldbury
Thomas Hayes Son 6 Scholar Born Oldbury
Mary A. Hayes Daur. 4 Born Oldbury
Jane Hayes Daur. 1 Born Oldbury


on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =644585681


so maria married a moss

HOLDEN Maria MOSS Thomas 1858 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/017/406


william moss 52 son ? is the age wrong or is it his father

did the first william hayes died or age wrong in later censuses ?