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Re: Frederick Wesson--look up for Gardener

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:59 am
by Jimmy
I can't see a marriage for Caroline to a Wesson after 1901, where she is a Widow.

Re: Frederick Wesson--look up for Gardener

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:00 am
by sparkstopper
My heads spinning with this one....I think we should wait and see
what 'lookup' confirms. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: Frederick Wesson--look up for Gardener

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:03 am
by Northern Lass
I have added Caroline as mother I think that looks good
I think she must have met a Henry Wesson
really need that birth cert for Frederick
was there one?

I think we can add George henry if the father is an edward and I will come back on that one in a bit

then I think we can add all the Cadman info

what do we think? :shock:

Re: Frederick Wesson--look up for Gardener

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:03 am
by Jimmy
1881, Caroline is a Clara.

43 Springfield Lane, Rowley Regis.
Hannah Cadman 33. Widow.
Clara Cadman 13.
Ann Jane Cadman 11.
John Henry Cadman 9.
Anne Cadman 7.
Samuel Cadman 4.
Emma Cadman 1.
William Beston 22. Lodger.

Re: Frederick Wesson--look up for Gardener

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:04 am
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:This one is not on WMBMD.

Births Dec 1901.
Wesson Frederick, Dudley. 6c. 14.


Re: Frederick Wesson--look up for Gardener

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:22 am
by sparkstopper
Henry WESSON /Caroline CADMAN could be this Henry WESTON already on BCC.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =634269205

Re: Frederick Wesson--look up for Gardener

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:26 am
by Northern Lass
rite got the marriage look up for George Henry Wesson....this is great!!

it is Edward deceased miner

3rd April 1920 St Giles Rowley Regis<br>
George Henry Wesson- 25- bach- labourer- 31 The Knowle Rowley Regis (is what it looked like)- Edward Wesson- deceased- miner<br>
Annie Siviter- 25- Spinster- 3 Club Buildings Rowley Regis- Thomas Siviter - miner<br>
banns<br>
both signed George as a Wesson not Weston<br>
Wit- Frederick Wesson/ Alice Thomson????


rite I think we can add Edward
can someone add that marriage look up pls and I will do that at Dudley see if father is a Thomas?
was it Thomas
I am outta here in a min

Re: Frederick Wesson--look up for Gardener

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:28 am
by Northern Lass
sparkstopper wrote:Henry WESSON /Caroline CADMAN could be this Henry WESTON already on BCC.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =634269205


I think you are correct
we need that marriage for Edward and Caroline if father is thomas and age is good on that lot
bet it was his bro Henry

do we have any census for Thomas and occup for henry and edward?

Re: Frederick Wesson--look up for Gardener

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:30 am
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:Caroline Cadman married a Edward Weston or Wesson.

West Midlands Marriage 1893.
CADMAN Caroline. WESTON. Edward. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/040/293.
WESSON Edward. CADMAN. Caroline. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/040/293.
WESTON Edward. CADMAN. Caroline. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/040/293.


Edward could have had a brother Henry,

1891. 42, Dudley Road, Rowley Regis.
Thomas Wesson 60. Coalminer.
Sarah Wesson 61.
Henry Wesson 29. Coalminer.
James Wesson 27.
Edward Wesson 23. Coalminer.

Deaths Jun 1897.
WESSON Edward, 29. Dudley. 6c. 51.

Re: Frederick Wesson--look up for Gardener

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:00 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:
1901. 92, Garratts Lane.
Henry T Wesson 40.
Mary Wesson 41.
William E Wesson 12.
George A Wesson 5.
Wilfred H Wesson 3.


This family went to America about 1904 ---06 .

Re: Frederick Wesson--look up for Gardener

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:28 pm
by sparkstopper
I think this family changed from WESTON to WESSON and back again. :See below.

1871 Cens: Springfield, Row,Reg.
Thomas WESSON hd.40 Coal Miner b. Dudley
Sarah WESSON wife 40
John Hughes boarder(son crossed out)22. Man Servant
Alfred Hughes boarder(son crossed out) 20 Coal Miner
Joseph Hughes boarder(son crossed out)17 Coke Burner.
Henry T WESSON son 10 Schol.
James WESSON son 7. Schol.
Edward WESSON son 5. Schol. All b. Dudley.

1861 Cens; Springfield Row.Reg.
Thomas WESTON hd.31 Miner Coal b. Windmill End.
Sarah WESTON wife 29
Alfred Hughes son in law 10 Schol. b. Windmill End.


1851 Windmill End.

Prudence WESTON hd.wid. 44 Nailer b. Row.Reg.
Thomas WESTON son 20 Coal Miner b. Dud.
Elizabeth WESTON dau.18 Nailer b. Dud.
Katherine WESTON niece 2 b.Row.Reg.

1841 Windmill End.
Prudence WESTON 35 Nailer
Joseph WESTON 13 Coal Miner
Thos. WESTON 10 Coal Miner
Elizabeth WESTON 8
Also in household:
Wm.Faulkner 65 Nailer.

Re: Frederick Wesson--look up for Gardener

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:04 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:
Jimmy wrote:
1901. 92, Garratts Lane.
Henry T Wesson 40. Wheelwright.
Mary Wesson 41.
William E Wesson 12.
George A Wesson 5.
Wilfred H Wesson 3.


This family went to America about 1904 ---06 .


Is it possible that this Henry is the father of Frederick Wesson.

Is wife and kids followed about 1906.

First Name: Henry Thomas. (Wheelwright)
Last Name: Wesson.
Ethnicity: England, English.
Last Place of Residence: Staffordshire.
Date of Arrival: Sep 18, 1904.
Age at Arrival: 44y Gender: M. Marital Status: M .
Ship of Travel: Arabic.
Port of Departure: Liverpool.
Manifest Line Number: 0015.

It says, To brother Albert Wesson New York. but I can't see a brother Albert.

Re: Frederick Wesson--look up for Gardener

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:11 pm
by Jimmy
1910. Stamford Ward 1, Fairfield, Connecticut.
Henry T Wesson 49. Carpenter.
Mary Wesson 50.
William Wesson 21.
George Wesson 14.
Wilfred Wesson 12.

Re: Frederick Wesson--look up for Gardener

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:44 pm
by Northern Lass
Why do you think that Henry rather than the one with bro Edward Jimmy?

:?

Re: Frederick Wesson--look up for Gardener

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:00 pm
by Northern Lass
Just a note on Wesson and Weston
we are running the 2 surnames so it is useful to see how the name changed over the generations
but
I like where we can not to rely on the census as they seem to stick anything down, as it was heard
so if in doubt check regis details or certifs for how they signed if indeed they did.

I will try and add some of this
but I am confused as to who is this Henry T
do we have him on bcc?