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From IGI
Kids for Edward Fletcher and Susannah/Susan


1. KETURAH FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 05 MAR 1831

2. KETURAH FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 02 JUN 1842 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

3. JOHN FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 03 FEB 1823

4. JOHN FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 JAN 1839 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

5. EMILY FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 09 MAY 1839

6. EMILY FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 02 JUN 1842 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

7. EDWARD FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 19 JAN 1828

8. EDWARD FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 JAN 1839 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

9. SOPHIA FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 03 SEP 1829

10. SOPHIA FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 02 JUN 1842 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

11. ELIHU FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 12 NOV 1832

12. ELIHU FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 02 JUN 1842 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

13. SARAH FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 26 APR 1842

14. SARAH FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 02 JUN 1842 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

15. SELINA FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 06 MAR 1837

16. SELINA FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 02 JUN 1842 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

17. ANN FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 06 APR 1828 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

18. MESHACH FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 09 JUN 1834

19. MESHACH FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 02 JUN 1842 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

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The fletchers ok to go on ?

JAMES PORTMAN
ROSEANNA SMART
Marriage: 18 JUN 1866 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester

poss James age slightly out ? for son of james (46)


1881 21 High St, Dudley, Worcester,

James PORTMAN 36 Netherton, Worcester, Coal Miner
Rosannah PORTMAN 33 Netherton, Worcester, Nail Maker
Thomas PORTMAN 14 Netherton, Worcester, Errand Boy
Joseph PORTMAN 10 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar


poss rosannah

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =822338802

right put this family on anyone find any more census please

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =886450923

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1901 High st, Dudley

James Portman 56 Cager Collier Netherton, Worcestershire
Rosannah Portman 55 Netherton, Worcestershire


same house

1901 High st, Dudley

Joseph Portman 31 Stoker at Colliery
Elizabeth Portman 31 Dressmaker, Old Hill Staffs
Joseph James Portman 8
Annie E Portman 6
Thomas Portman 4

other born Netherton


poss marr

PORTMAN Joseph BRADLEY Elizabeth 1891 Dudley, St James West Midlands Dudley Register Office 202/011/213

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1891 30 High St, Dudley

James Portman 47 Coal Miner
Rosannah Portman 46
Joseph Portman 21 Labourer

All born Dudley

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is this him in 1861

Thomas Portman 38 Nailor
Rosanna Portman 38
Rosanna Portman 20 Nailoress
James Portman 17 Coal miner
Hannah Portman 14 Nailoress
Sarah Portman 10
Thomas Portman 4

All born Netherton


poss marriage

PORTMAN Thomas ROLLINSON Rosannah 1839 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/002/498


1851 Sweet Turf, Dudley

Thomas Portman 31 Nailor
Rosana Portman 31
Rosana Portman 10
James Portman 7
Anna Portman 4
Selina Portman 1

All born Dudley



1841 Northfield road, Dudley

Thomas Portman 20 Nailor
Rosanna Portman 20
Rosanna Portman 1

All born in County

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1871 8 Baptist End Road Netherton Dudley
Joseph Smart 10 (Image says Joseph Smart Head 70 Coal Miner Born Dudley)
Sarah Smart Wife 68 Born Dudley
James Nortman 26 (Image says Joseph Portman Lodger Coal Miner Born Dudley
Rosannah Nortman Wife 24 Born Dudley(Image says Portman)
Thomas Nortman Son 4 Scholar Born Dudley (Image says Portman)

Possible
1861 Dudley
Thomas Portman Head 38 Nailer Born Netherton
Rosanna Portman Wife 38 Born Netherton
Rosanna Portman Daur. 20 Nailoress Born Netherton
James Portman Son 17 Coal Miner Born Netherton
Hannah Portman Daur. 14 Nailoress Born Netherton
Sarah Portman Daur. 10 Born Netherton
Thomas Portman Son 4 Born Netherton

1851Sweet Turf
Thomas Portman Head 31 Nailer
Rosana Portman Wife 31
Rosana Portman Daur. 10
James Portman Son 7
Anna Portman Daur. 4
Selina Portman Daur. 1
All born Dudley

Also this for 1851 Northfield Road
Sarah Portman Head Widow 35 Born Rowley
Rosannah Portman Daur. 14 Nailer Born Dudley
James Portman Son 12 Chain Maker Born Rowley
Sarah A Portman Daur. 9 Scholar Born Dudley
Elizabeth Portman Daur.7 Scholar Born Dudley
Thos James Portman Son 6 Scholar Born Dudley

Next door Hannah Portman Head Widow 65
Edward Portman 24 Labourer
Solomon Portman 22 Nailer
Next door
Joseph Portman Head 29 Coal Miner
Ann Portman Wife 27
Elizabeth Portman Daur 9 Mths
All born Dudley

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1871 8 Baptist End Road Netherton Dudley
Joseph Smart 10 (Image says Joseph Smart Head 70 Coal Miner Born Dudley)
Sarah Smart Wife 68 Born Dudley
James Nortman 26 (Image says Joseph Portman Lodger Coal Miner Born Dudley
Rosannah Nortman Wife 24 Born Dudley(Image says Portman)
Thomas Nortman Son 4 Scholar Born Dudley (Image says Portman)

Possible
1861 Dudley
Thomas Portman Head 38 Nailer Born Netherton
Rosanna Portman Wife 38 Born Netherton
Rosanna Portman Daur. 20 Nailoress Born Netherton
James Portman Son 17 Coal Miner Born Netherton
Hannah Portman Daur. 14 Nailoress Born Netherton
Sarah Portman Daur. 10 Born Netherton
Thomas Portman Son 4 Born Netherton

1851Sweet Turf
Thomas Portman Head 31 Nailer
Rosana Portman Wife 31
Rosana Portman Daur. 10
James Portman Son 7
Anna Portman Daur. 4
Selina Portman Daur. 1
All born Dudley


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Above think this is the james who married rosannah smart


Below think this james married Mary Tickle

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Also this for 1851 Northfield Road
Sarah Portman Head Widow 35 Born Rowley
Rosannah Portman Daur. 14 Nailer Born Dudley
James Portman Son 12 Chain Maker Born Rowley
Sarah A Portman Daur. 9 Scholar Born Dudley
Elizabeth Portman Daur.7 Scholar Born Dudley
Thos James Portman Son 6 Scholar Born Dudley

Next door Hannah Portman Head Widow 65
Edward Portman 24 Labourer
Solomon Portman 22 Nailer
Next door
Joseph Portman Head 29 Coal Miner
Ann Portman Wife 27
Elizabeth Portman Daur 9 Mths
All born Dudley

Thomas c 1820 i think is the son of james and hannah

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =837763520

and sarah portman c 1816 is sarah billingham wife of thomas brother james

look up will tell us

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right is this edward son of james and hannah

1861 Albert Mews, Middlesbough

Edward Portman 33? tender Iron Works, Netherton, Worcestershire
Sarah Portman 32 Netherton, Worcestershire


1871 Bread St, Fletton, Huntingdonshire

Edward Portman 42 foreman ? Netherton, Worcestershire
Sarah Portman 41 Netherton, Worcestershire
James Ragan 26 Boarder
Sarah Ragan 18 Boarder
James Christian 22 Boarder
Alice Christian 23 Boarder


1881 40 Dundas Mews Middlesbrough, York,


Edward PORTMAN 53 Netherton, Worcester, Capola Tenter (Iron)
Sarah PORTMAN 53 Netherton, Worcester,
Mary A. RAGAN Neice 9 Peterboro, Northampton, Scholar
James SMART Cousin M 64 Netherton, Worcester, Foundry Labourer (Iron)



so mary A poss james and sarah kid from 1871

Marriages Dec 1870
BIRCH Sarah Peterbro' 3b 461
Harris Augusta Peterbro' 3b 461
Ragan James Peterboro 3b 461
RICHMOND Christopher Peterbro' 3b 461



and James is poss related to rosannah smart ?

[Northern Lass]

that marriage looks good for James and rosannah smart
am adding it!

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that marriage looks good for James and rosannah smart
am adding it!

joined rosannah up

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =579348715

[Northern Lass]

1871 8 Baptist End Road Netherton Dudley
Joseph Smart 10 (Image says Joseph Smart Head 70 Coal Miner Born Dudley)
Sarah Smart Wife 68 Born Dudley
James Nortman 26 (Image says Joseph Portman Lodger Coal Miner Born Dudley
Rosannah Nortman Wife 24 Born Dudley(Image says Portman)
Thomas Nortman Son 4 Scholar Born Dudley (Image says Portman)

Possible
1861 Dudley
Thomas Portman Head 38 Nailer Born Netherton
Rosanna Portman Wife 38 Born Netherton
Rosanna Portman Daur. 20 Nailoress Born Netherton
James Portman Son 17 Coal Miner Born Netherton
Hannah Portman Daur. 14 Nailoress Born Netherton
Sarah Portman Daur. 10 Born Netherton
Thomas Portman Son 4 Born Netherton

1851Sweet Turf
Thomas Portman Head 31 Nailer
Rosana Portman Wife 31
Rosana Portman Daur. 10
James Portman Son 7
Anna Portman Daur. 4
Selina Portman Daur. 1
All born Dudley

Also this for 1851 Northfield Road
Sarah Portman Head Widow 35 Born Rowley
Rosannah Portman Daur. 14 Nailer Born Dudley
James Portman Son 12 Chain Maker Born Rowley
Sarah A Portman Daur. 9 Scholar Born Dudley
Elizabeth Portman Daur.7 Scholar Born Dudley
Thos James Portman Son 6 Scholar Born Dudley

Next door Hannah Portman Head Widow 65
Edward Portman 24 Labourer
Solomon Portman 22 Nailer
Next door
Joseph Portman Head 29 Coal Miner
Ann Portman Wife 27
Elizabeth Portman Daur 9 Mths
All born Dudley

I think we should join this Thomas b 1820 up with James
it looks very good

what do others think?
ahead of marriage look up
is marriage look up on?

the area of birth age occup names all good

[Northern Lass]

This marriage I think could be added too
is it down for look up


PORTMAN Thomas ROLLINSON Rosannah 1839 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/002/498

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is this him in 1861

Thomas Portman 38 Nailor
Rosanna Portman 38
Rosanna Portman 20 Nailoress
James Portman 17 Coal miner
Hannah Portman 14 Nailoress
Sarah Portman 10
Thomas Portman 4

All born Netherton


poss marriage

PORTMAN Thomas ROLLINSON Rosannah 1839 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/002/498


1851 Sweet Turf, Dudley

Thomas Portman 31 Nailor
Rosana Portman 31
Rosana Portman 10
James Portman 7
Anna Portman 4
Selina Portman 1

All born Dudley



1841 Northfield road, Dudley

Thomas Portman 20 Nailor
Rosanna Portman 20
Rosanna Portman 1

All born in County

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jame c 1844 is proberly the one who married rosannah smart


anyone find thomas and family in 1871 please or later

[Northern Lass]

I agree Pete
that does look like the James that married Rosannah Smart

some great connections there!!

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WILLM. PORTMAN
Christening: 26 JUL 1807 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,


Father: JAMES PORTMAN
Mother: ANN

is this william



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poss marriage

WILLIAM PURTMAN
SARAH HILL
Marriage: 07 APR 1828 Kingswinford, Stafford

this cannot be look up can it ?


is he james brother and witness on his marriage to sarah billingham ?

Marriage info by Jan
10 March 1834 St Thomas Dudley
-James Portman otp bach
-Sarah Billingham otp spinster
banns
X both
Wit- Thos Allen/ William Portman X


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