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				Re: Connecting Parish Record to 1841 Census?
				Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:16 am
				by Northern Lass
				Mark do you have access to the Park Lane actual registers?
on a fiche or film? just wondered if it was the actual image or index
On the Park Lane ones they sometimes have quite abit of info that the vicar has jotted down
If it is a transcribed source then I will stick the look ups on
if it is the actual not much point in me looking it up 
where is all this info you have from where can you buy it from?
The archives are now closed for christmas
I am back in after christmas
			 
			
					
				Re: Connecting Parish Record to 1841 Census?
				Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:18 am
				by MarkCDodd
				Not much
County	Worcestershire
Place	Dudley
Church	St Thomas
RegisterNumber	466
MarriageDate	19 Feb 1811
GroomForename	Joseph
GroomSurname	BUTLER
GroomAge	
GroomParish	
GroomCondition	Bachelor
GroomOccupation	
GroomAbode	
BrideForename	Jane
BrideSurname	BLOOMER
BrideAge	
BrideParish	
BrideCondition	Spinster
BrideOccupation	
BrideAbode	
GroomFatherForename	
GroomFatherSurname	
GroomFatherOccupation	
BrideFatherForename	
BrideFatherSurname	
BrideFatherOccupation	
WitnessOneForename	W.m.
WitnessOneSurname	BOURN
WitnessTwoForename	Mark
WitnessTwoSurname	BOND
Notes	By Banns - Bride And Groom Sign X
FileNumber	3908
			 
			
					
				Re: Connecting Parish Record to 1841 Census?
				Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:23 am
				by MarkCDodd
				The actual registers have been photographed by The Genealogist.
They have covered all the Non Conformist registers in the National Archives.
Usually their transcriptions are pretty good but it is sometimes worth flicking through the register yourself.
The Genalogist have also done all the overseas BMD plus the deaths at sea register.
They are about to start tackling the Roman Catholic registers, which is what I really need.....
			 
			
					
				Re: Connecting Parish Record to 1841 Census?
				Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:27 am
				by MarkCDodd
				The church is St Johns for the baptisms (Church of England).
			 
			
					
				Re: Connecting Parish Record to 1841 Census?
				Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:37 am
				by MarkCDodd
				Possible parent...
Thomas Bloomer and Nancy Burton married on the 29th March 1784 at Saint Albans, Halesowen.
			 
			
					
				Re: Connecting Parish Record to 1841 Census?
				Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:38 am
				by Maths girl
				possible for Jane and husband Joseph Butler
1841 Overend Halesowen
Joseph Butler 55 Nailer
Jane Butler 45 
William Butler 25 Nailer
Samuel Butler 20 Nailer
Matthew Butler 15 
Rebecca Butler 15 
Maria Butler 13 
Joseph Butler 9 
Caroline Butler 5 
Some name repeats
			 
			
					
				Re: Connecting Parish Record to 1841 Census?
				Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:39 am
				by Paul-E
				peterd wrote:Paul-E wrote:Info found on census:
Thomas Teal Born Staffordshire Cradley
John Teal Born Cradley Worcester
Mary Ann Teal.....still checking into married name
william Teal Born Cradley Worcestershire
Pretty sure these are William & Sarahs kids.
I have just found on ancestry in someones family tree these children with parents as William Tall & Sarah Bloomer.
Will contact tree owner and see how far they have checked.
Paul
any ages with them paul
 
1851 Census: 
Thomas Teal 42 ABT 1809
John Seal 40 ABT 1811 
William Taal 35 ABT 1816
Have copy of Parish record of marraige between William Tall % Sarah Bloomer.
Married in the prefence of Benjamin Hadley & Mark Bond. 
Mark Bond I think was a Clerk. Not sure if Benjamin Hadley is also something to do with church but on the records page I have he also witnessed another wedding on same day??
Just like to say thanks everyone for help. All help is very much appreciated from all those who contribute. It is very kind of everyone to take time out and help total strangers.
Paul
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Connecting Parish Record to 1841 Census?
				Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:42 am
				by Maths girl
				Maths girl wrote:possible for Jane and husband Joseph Butler
1841 Overend Halesowen
Joseph Butler 55 Nailer
Jane Butler 45 
William Butler 25 Nailer
Samuel Butler 20 Nailer
Matthew Butler 15 
Rebecca Butler 15 
Maria Butler 13 
Joseph Butler 9 
Caroline Butler 5 
Some name repeats
Next door:
Phoebe Perrins 40 
Rebecca Wiggington 50 
Harriet Wiggington 15
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Connecting Parish Record to 1841 Census?
				Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:51 am
				by Paul-E
				MarkCDodd wrote:I think I have found Sarah's family.
Father is Thomas. Mother is Ann.
Children are....
Rebekah Bloomer .... Baptised 19th December 1784 in Halesowen.
Sarah Bloomer..... Baptised 19th December 1784 in Halesowen.   I wonder if they are twins?
Samuel Bloomer..... Baptised 13th December 1789 in Halesowen.   Died 7th August 1790
Jane Bloomer.... Baptised 31st July 1791 in Halesowen.
Many thanks Mark
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Connecting Parish Record to 1841 Census?
				Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:20 am
				by linell
				Hi Paul, there is also a Burial for a Sarah Bloomer in the St John's Parish Halesowen Register Buried 15.8.1807.  
Also one at Cradley Sarah Bloomer burial 16.11.1785.
Linell.
			 
			
					
				Re: Connecting Parish Record to 1841 Census?
				Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:51 am
				by Northern Lass
				MarkCDodd wrote:The actual registers have been photographed by The Genealogist.
They have covered all the Non Conformist registers in the National Archives.
Usually their transcriptions are pretty good but it is sometimes worth flicking through the register yourself.
The Genalogist have also done all the overseas BMD plus the deaths at sea register.
They are about to start tackling the Roman Catholic registers, which is what I really need.....
Thanks for that Mark 
Ok I will look at those in the actual register see what it says
might be some more info if we are lucky 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Connecting Parish Record to 1841 Census?
				Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:03 am
				by Northern Lass
				Moving this now to Black Country archived and will bring back with info on look ups
 
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Connecting Parish Record to 1841 Census?
				Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:38 pm
				by Northern Lass
				Brought this Back for Paul E as look ups connected to this done
Paul I haven't added to BCC as you will hopefully be joining BCC.
So may I ask that when you input your ancestors you can add these bapts in the ancestor template and in the notes
you will understand what I mean when you join  
 ok here they are
10 March 1810 Park Lane Presbyterian 
Thomas s of William and Sarah Tail of Cradley
18 Feb 1816 Park Lane 
William s of William and Sarah Tail of Cradley
25 may 1809 St Thomas 
William Tall  X otp Bach 
Sarah Bloomer X  spinster
Wit - Benjamin Hadley / Mark Bond
paul mark bond is to do with the church 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: UPDATE look ups for Paul E done--PR connec to 1841 Census?
				Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:17 am
				by Paul-E
				Many thanks Jan, please pass my thanks to Kaye also for taking time out to help
Paul
			 
			
					
				Re: UPDATE look ups for Paul E done--PR connec to 1841 Census?
				Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:21 am
				by Northern Lass
				Will do  
 Flagging this now to archive it