Northern Lass wrote:Mary ann wall has father John Wall so if that is her mother Maria then that must be a second marriage for Maria
found this could be her 1st marriage look at the name Phillips
JOHN WALL Marriages: Spouse: MARY PHILLIPPS Marriage: 13 MAR 1822 Hampton Bishop, Hereford, Extracted marriage record
Maria Freeman 1841 Dawn Side Norton Herefordshire William Freeman 40 Ag Lab Maria Freeman 45 Mary Wall 17 Glover Elizabeth Phillips 20 Ag Lab All born in County
these 2 agree with that above
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Northern Lass wrote:Mary ann wall has father John Wall so if that is her mother Maria then that must be a second marriage for Maria
found this could be her 1st marriage look at the name Phillips
JOHN WALL Marriages: Spouse: MARY PHILLIPPS Marriage: 13 MAR 1822 Hampton Bishop, Hereford, Extracted marriage record
i know but no real proof mary is the right age no relationships in 1841 cencus
Maria Freeman 1841 Dawn Side Norton Herefordshire William Freeman 40 Ag Lab Maria Freeman 45 Mary Wall 17 Glover Elizabeth Phillips 20 Ag Lab All born in County
Northern Lass wrote:Mary ann wall has father John Wall so if that is her mother Maria then that must be a second marriage for Maria
found this could be her 1st marriage look at the name Phillips
JOHN WALL Marriages: Spouse: MARY PHILLIPPS Marriage: 13 MAR 1822 Hampton Bishop, Hereford, Extracted marriage record
i know but no real proof mary is the right age no relationships in 1841 cencus
Maria Freeman 1841 Dawn Side Norton Herefordshire William Freeman 40 Ag Lab Maria Freeman 45 Mary Wall 17 Glover Elizabeth Phillips 20 Ag Lab All born in Coun
these 2 agree with that above[/quot
it could be her sister in law i like to be ioo%sure
i wold be incline to think elizabeth and mary ann are maria/mary daughters one from her first marriage other before first marriage you need to track down a christening for one or both
Hampton Bishop, is just outside the town of Hereford
and Norton Herefordshire will come under broomyard i would think
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peterd wrote:i wold be incline to think elizabeth and mary ann are maria/mary daughters one from her first marriage other before first marriage you need to track down a christening for one or both
Hampton Bishop, is just outside the town of Hereford
and Norton Herefordshire will come under broomyard i would think
old maria could have married three times ajohn philips .john wall plus william freeman i would not have thought that mary would have been her only child she was in her 40s when she had mary. i know bromyard very well.
sueh wrote:my gran was gertrude hill nee taylor and she used to tell me the story of a baby that was born on board on a man o war in the bay of biscay and there was a newspaper report about with a photo of her in the county express she was a old lady in a high backed chair with a croched hat on her head which could have been a mop cap that was all i knew about this baby over the last 12yrs i have found out alot more her name was maria and she was grans mom minnie jukes greatgrand mother maria was born c1777 on board hms worcester she was christened on board the ship her god father was lieutenant horatio nelson when ichecked i found nelson was on board the ship at the time and in the spring of 1777 he took his lieutenant exams so that checked out i looked up the worcester and found she was a 64 gun third rate ship and she was broken up in 1814 by september 1777 nelson is on another ship. old maria has i call her married a william freeman 1841 cenus maria and william are living in a cottage on the bromyard downs with daughter maryann wall or could be granddaughter not sure which.1848 william dies in bromyard old maria comes to stourbridge to be near maryann and her husband wilkinson hatton .1851 cencus old marie is living in windmill street which is now church streetwith a lady named carpenter who was awittness at maryanns wedding she aged 71and acharlady and is from bromyard.1861 cencus old maria is living off brettle lane has a lodger is down has a nurse age 81 and coming from bristol.1871 cencus.she is living at chawn hill maryann has died in 1865 and willkinson hatton and his daughter mary a are living with her she is on parish relief.1881 cenus old maria is living at lower swinford january 1882 old maria dies and is buried in oldswinford churchyard. if anyone looking thro the the old newspapers in stourbridge libary and they come across the report would they let me knew we have gone up to 1914 ourselfs without much luck regards sueh
So the county express is also at the Dudley archives if you ever go there They do I think cataglogue some of the entries so you could have a look thru those there might be a ref to Nelson or something. Although I go to Dudley I avoid looking at the newspapers unless I can go exactly to the page etc.
So not sure if you want this whole topic moved to brick walls or to look up requests section or do you need any more info on this actual thread.
It is great you are in touch with Jane 2009....this forum is all about bringing people together and sharing information
Although poss just a coincidence, I have an Andrew Nelson Evans b1907 son of John Evans b1858 Cradley Heath and Mary Ann (Davey) b1866 Membury, Devonshire. They married in 1885 St Hellier, Jersey.
I wonder why they chose Nelson for his middle name
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jane2009 wrote:I've been trawling county express records and have not come across photos till the 1950's so when was this photo of this women in there then?
jane i was told by gran she had the cutting it was yellow with age they used to go to church alot i wonder if it was in oldswinford parish mag i will try and find out by the way how are june and bruce
Hi Sue. Mom and dad are well thankyou. Hows Joy? I have a question. If Marie was born in 1777 and died in 1882 then she'd be 105 or am I getting confused.
Nelson for his middle name
and died in 1882 then she'd be 105 or am I getting confused.