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1841 Swinford Wood Kingswinford
George Easthope 70 Farmer Y
Ann Easthope 55 Y
George Easthope 20 Chain Maker Y
Joseph Easthope 15 Cordwainer Y
David Easthope 14 Y

Kingswinford
St Mary
Parish Register
Register entry number 1143
Marriage date 02 Apr 1804
George EASTOP Kingswinford
Nancey RAYBOULD Kingswinford
Witness 1 Jane BRAZNELL
Witness 2 Thomas HOLLOWAY
Notes Groom and bride sign by mark

Brierley Hill
St Michael
Other Transcript
Register entry number -34703
Baptism date 25 Dec 1804
Person forename Truth
Person sex F
Father forename George
Mother forename Nancy
Father surname EASTHOPE

Brierley Hill
Church name (Links to more information) St Michael
Register type (Links to more information) Other Transcript
Register entry number -34061
Baptism date 28 Sep 1806
Person forename Mary
Person sex F
Father forename George
Mother forename Ann
Father surname ESTOP

Brierley Hill
Church name (Links to more information) St Michael
Register type (Links to more information) Other Transcript
Register entry number -33340
Baptism date 18 Sep 1808
Person forename George
Person sex M
Father forename George
Mother forename Ann
Father surname EASTHOPE

Brierley Hill
Church name (Links to more information) St Michael
Register type (Links to more information) Other Transcript
Register entry number -32703
Baptism date 17 Jun 1810
Person forename Hester
Person sex F
Father forename George
Mother forename Ann
Father surname EASTHOPE

Brierley Hill
Church name (Links to more information) St Michael
Register type (Links to more information) Other Transcript
Register entry number -32157
Baptism date 15 Dec 1811
Person forename Thomas
Person sex M
Father forename George
Mother forename Ann
Father surname EASTHOPE

Brierley Hill
Church name (Links to more information) St Michael
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 180
Baptism date 15 Nov 1813
Person forename Elizabeth
Person sex F
Father forename George
Mother forename Nancy
Father surname EASTHOPE
Person abode Saltwells

Brierley Hill
Church name (Links to more information) St Michael
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 636
Baptism date 26 Nov 1815
Person forename Henry
Person sex M
Father forename George
Mother forename Nancy
Father surname EASTHOPE
Person abode Saltwell
Father occupation Trump-tongue-maker

Brierley Hill
Church name (Links to more information) St Michael
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 1116
Baptism date 24 May 1818
Person forename George
Person sex M
Father forename George
Mother forename Anne
Father surname EASTHOPE
Person abode Saltwell
Father occupation Jew's harp maker

Brierley Hill
Church name (Links to more information) St Michael
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 1570
Baptism date 30 Apr 1820
Person forename Joseph
Person sex M
Father forename George
Mother forename Anne
Father surname EASTHOPE
Person abode Saltwell
Father occupation Jew's harp maker

Brierley Hill
Church name (Links to more information) St Michael
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 2161
Baptism date 28 Jul 1822
Person forename David
Person sex M
Father forename George
Mother forename Anne
Father surname EASTHOPE
Person abode Saltwell
Father occupation Jew's harp maker

is this david raybould?
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... i=26419175

Could be this one https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=543457

On the 1841 Census George Easthope is on on page , on the previous page are
David Raybould 50 Lab
Mary Raybould 56
Elizabeth Raybould 25 Nailer
Esther Raybould 20
Susannah Raybould 15
Next door is
Joseph Raybould 65 Nailer
Fanny Raybould 60
James Raybould 25 Chain Maker

So is it the correct Joseph on BCC?

kdwoodie wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:So hang on we have this one here
is this James Raybould son of Humphrey and Prudence
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =466988896

he seems to marry a Mary Brettell
he then dies and she marries Thomas Manger

is that the thomas we are talking about

This looks good

Looks like James died before that marriage to Mary Brettell

Name: James Raybould
Death Age: 26
Birth Date: 1777
Death Date: 1803
Burial Date: 24 Apr 1803
Burial Place: Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
FHL Film Number: 1470582
Reference: ID: it2

Found marriage on FreeReg: -
16 Mar 1823 • St Thomas, Dudley, England
James Raybould, B. Abode: Dudley. Mary Brettell, S. Abode: Dudley. Witness 1: S. Paskin. Witness 2: William Bullas. By Banns-Groom & witness 2 marked X. Witness 1 signed. FLN: 1772. Source: FreeReg

Sorry I do not have a birth certificate for David Manger. From Ancestry he was baptized on 4th February 1838 in Halesowen and and he passed away December 1911, registered in Dudley.
My cousin in America also has a copy of an obituary written in a religious magazine - The New Crusader .

Frodo wrote:The Thomas Manger I have in the tree is born 1797, died 1860 parents William Manger and Pamela Barrows.
I have no record of Mary Brettell and struggling to find information. She is however mentioned in another family tree but they discount Mary Raybould.

If this is your Thomas Manger

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... onnections

it seems to me that he marries a widow Mary Raybould
8 Apr 1833 St John The Baptist Halesowen
Thomas MANGER otp Wid
Mary RAYBOLD otp Wid
After Banns Thomas Signed The X Of Mary
Wit; Solomon Brettle George G. Fiddian

she it seems was prev married to
James Raybould son of Humprey and Prudence
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =291584592

Frodo wrote:Looking at the Manger side of the family I am trying to make sense of Humphrey and Prudence who's grandaughter Mary married Thomas Manger.
For Humphrey I have his baptism on 13th August 1746 and probate on 25th October 1827.

Hi Frodo,

I'm trying to make sense of the marriage and realised from your paragraph that it is Humphrey and Mary's grandaughter, Mary who married Thomas Manger. Who were the parents of the grandaughter, Mary?

Something not rite somewhere

if that is a Burial for James son of Humphrey then must be another James raybould marrying Mary Brettell

still seems though that thomas marries widow mary raybould not spinster mary raybould

so how can it be that a Mary Raybould maiden name such married thomas manger

see here..
8 Apr 1833 St John The Baptist Halesowen
Thomas MANGER otp Wid
Mary RAYBOLD otp Wid
After Banns Thomas Signed The X Of Mary
Wit; Solomon Brettle George G. Fiddian

Northern Lass wrote:

Frodo wrote:The Thomas Manger I have in the tree is born 1797, died 1860 parents William Manger and Pamela Barrows.
I have no record of Mary Brettell and struggling to find information. She is however mentioned in another family tree but they discount Mary Raybould.

If this is your Thomas Manger

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... onnections

it seems to me that he marries a widow Mary Raybould
8 Apr 1833 St John The Baptist Halesowen
Thomas MANGER otp Wid
Mary RAYBOLD otp Wid
After Banns Thomas Signed The X Of Mary
Wit; Solomon Brettle George G. Fiddian

she it seems was prev married to
James Raybould son of Humprey and Prudence
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =291584592

It couldn't have been James Raybould, son of Humphrey and Prudence: -

Looks like James died before that marriage to Mary Brettell

Name: James Raybould
Death Age: 26
Birth Date: 1777
Death Date: 1803
Burial Date: 24 Apr 1803
Burial Place: Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
FHL Film Number: 1470582
Reference: ID: it2

Found marriage on FreeReg: -
16 Mar 1823 • St Thomas, Dudley, England
James Raybould, B. Abode: Dudley. Mary Brettell, S. Abode: Dudley. Witness 1: S. Paskin. Witness 2: William Bullas. By Banns-Groom & witness 2 marked X. Witness 1 signed. FLN: 1772. Source: FreeReg
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Ok so disconnecting the James Raybould who marries Mary Brettell so he isnt son of Humphrey and Prudence

that James of Humphrey looks like dying before 1823.

Still leaves the query of Thomas Manger...he marries a Mary Raybould nee Brettell not a Mary Raybould spinster.

agreed?

For David Raybould, Family Tree hints have picked up on Hannah Pearsall but Ancestry hints suggests a marriage to Mary Heartland in 1809 but I haven't done any checking.