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Ok so as far as I can see we now have 2 Noah's in 1851 but none in 1841 and I couldn't find any! - anyone else had any success

I've had another look and found

1841Cuckoos corner, Cradley
Noah Hingley,30,Nailor
Sarah Hingley,30,
Emma,2,
Saul,5mths,

So that is linell's second Noah.

I'll go fishing for the other one.

Dont know if this is any help
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/t ... 1003607983

kdw wrote:Dont know if this is any help
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/t ... 1003607983

Some good info there kdw

We still need to verify though anything we add
Can we find based on that info a bapt is that then our Noah that married that Ann
and that marriage to ann needs finding
I think it is that ann whittingham one there is a bapt that fits for her
but why the Linton? family name?

I think that is our Noah HIngley and those kids have a mother called Sarah who it looks like is Sarah Willetts
so I think we could add Sarah and link to those kids that there are bapts for
So did he have any kids with Ann?

Shall we add then Sarah Willetts and sort the kids out ie to which mother

then if we find a bapt and parents I think we can add that if we agree with parents being Isaac and Esther

what do we think?
get it moving but as accurate as we can

There were several Noah (H)ingleys in Rowley and Cradley in the early nineteenth century.

Noah Hingley the ironmaster was born in March 1796 but baptised 13 January 1814 at Dudley, son of Isaac and Esther nee Williams who had married at Clent on 7 June 1789. He started work when, with his father, he set up a forge and small chainmaking factory in Cradley, in the early 1800s. The works outgrew the site and in 1845 he moved to Netherton on the banks of the Birmingham Canal. Kenneth Mallin, the writer of a study of the firm, tells us that "The key to their early success lay in developing a colony of skilled Cradley men and women on which the enterprise was based." It was during his frequent visits to Liverpool that Noah accepted an initial order to make ships' cables, with no knowledge of cable making techniques! In 1848 he introduced the making of anchors to the Black Country and by the end of the century the area was the world centre for the manufacture of anchors and cables.

Noah married twice. Firstly to Sarah Willetts on 25 December 1814 at Kingswinford. She was born 1794, died 8 October 1832 and he re-married, to Ann Linton Whittingham (1797-1871) on 10 June 1833 (source: Oxford Dictionary of National Biography). Ann was the daughter of John Whittingham of Liverpool (source: Burkes Peerage and Baronetage in the entry for son Benjamin). She gave the name Linton to Linton House down Drew's Holloway in Cradley where they lived. Perhaps Linton was her mother's maiden name???

Sarah was the mother of all Noah's children. I think the complete list is as follows:

Mary Maria: b. 23.06.1815; d. 02.07.1885; m. Thomas Attwood
Esther: b. 15.11.1816; d. 13.12.1820
James: b. 25.04.1818; d. 14.06.1885; m. Anne Stevens 21.10 1839
Joseph: b.05.06.1821; d. 24.04.1900; m. Anne Hewitt 12.06.1873
Eli: b. 21.05.1823; d. 19.06.1893; m. Charlotte Parkes?
Hezekiah: b.31.03.1825; d. 16 or 17.04.1865; m. Fanny Georgina Thompson of Liverpool
Benjamin: b. 1830; d. 13.05.1905
Leah: b. 1826?; d. 1913
John: d. 1889; m. Mary?, emigrated to Australia?
Samuel: b. 19.09.1829; d. ??.10.1901;
Benjamin: b. 11.04or 09.1830; d. 13.05.1905

And while on the subject of "big names", Samuel married twice, firstly to Katherine Barrett (d.24.04.1865), then to Harriet Rumer Moore nee Godden (1844-1906) of Birkenhead, the mother of Rumer Godden, a prolific and well-known author, many of whose books have been made into films.

I hope this helps. Incidentally, I believe I am descended from Noah's brother Josiah, via his daughter Rosannah who married William Raybould in about 1825 (or perhaps they never did, because after 12 years of searching I have never found the date and place). So Noah is my 4 x great grandfather's brother, some sort of great uncle.

Nigel Brown
http://www.cradleylinks.co.uk

Thanks very much for all the info Nigel, much appreciated from Linell.

Thank you Nigel you are a star that will help us big time!
and Mally who is going to sort all this!
aren't you Mally

Wow! Thanks Nigel, that's solved the puzzle
I'm afraid I can't do it this evening cos I have to prepare my %$£*?@:$%^ performance revue for work! I've left it till the last minute as usual

Hopefully, I'll have more time tomorrow

Just out of interest my GG Grandfather Edwin Hall was Sir Benjamin Hingleys Gardener

kdw wrote:Just out of interest my GG Grandfather Edwin Hall was Sir Benjamin Hingleys Gardener

When Mally gets her finger out and starts to add this

(Sorry Mally)

then add that info to the notes on Benjamin
bits like that are great to have for posterity

I think that's it, all on now here

That's great San, thanks to you, and Nigel for the info, glad we got that sorted out in the end. Best Wishes from Linell.

mallosa wrote:I think that's it, all on now here

Nice one Mally thank you!

So we now have Noah Hingley on the tree
and thank you to Nigel and everyone else on this brilliant team effort

We can I think now archive unless anyone wishes to run with more on Noah
So unless otherwise advised this will be moved to archived section shortly

Found Hezekiah's marriage

Marriage Sep 1849
Hingley Hezekiah Thompson Fanny Georgiana W Derby 20 977

1851: Prescott Road, West Derby, Lancashire
Hezekiah Hingley 25 Head Manufacturer of Chains, Anchors and Nails Rowley, Staffs
Fanny G Hingley 24 Wife Bampton, Middlesex
George B Hingley 6 Mo Son Coal Agent? Liverpool
Richard Penistown 26 Visitor Coal Agent Bermuda
Elizabeth Lewis 27 Servant Denbigh
Isabella Kirkbridge 15 Servant Denham, Cumberland, England

1861: Grassendale Park, Garston, Lancashire
Hezikiah Hingley 37 Head Iron Merchant
Fanny G Hingley 35 Wife
George B Hingley 10 Son
Henry M Hingley 7 Son Garston
Alice L Hingley 1 Dau Garston
Mary Hobbs 41 Serv
Alice Hughes 20 Serv
Ann Robert 18 Serv