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thanks for info TBM

I will add in to Bcc that marriage and will add your username in notes on Bcc
on your William Smith

looks good for that marriage and I agree with Barb aka BC wench re the occupation

ahhh yes.. William Thomas (his war diary is on ancestry too btw... Im gonna try.. n decipher that lot too soon lol)

William Thomas Smith b 13th May 1891...
father John Smith Blast Furnace Engineer
Mother Selina Smith formerly Evans (x the mark...)

Ward Street Bilston


And ty.. I had never heard the term keeper.. associated w the blast furnace till just... which is why seeing boatman, and then keeper, My thoughts went to it being a lock keeper or something.. I didnt think of a blast furnace having a keeper

I knew they had the locos etc.. one of johns sons (I think it was Johns) is a loco or and engine driver

So now I have My Selina!!!

and looks like we have about all we're gonna get now for Johns dad william tho?

rockyfowler wrote:13 May 1853 St Thomas Dudley
William SMITH M B Furnace Man Dudley (Father & Occupation Blank)
Parthena CARLESS M S Dudley Father John Carless Engineer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; James Parkes X / Ellen Parkes X

PARKES James CARELESS Hellen 1850 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/010/296

wonder if james parkes introduce William and parthena who is he ?

this looks like them

1851 windmill end, Dudley

James Parkes 34 (looks like 24) labourer
Ellen Parkes 32 ( looks like 22)
both Dudley

1851 Windmill End, Dudley
William Dunn 47 coal miner
Hannah Dunn 43 rowley
Hannah Dunn 6
Elizabeth Smith 41 widower, nailor, rowley
Raron Smith 19 nailor, rowley
William Smith 16 labourer
rest Dudley

we come back to the above poss is there any way to connect the 3 surnames besides all living in windmill ends ?

wonder who are the witnesses on james and ellen marriage worth a look up ?

Thanks for looking pete, got info on this couple.

Marriage Details: 3 November 1850 - St Thomas' Dudley
James Parkes - 24 - Bachelor - Labourer - Windmill End - James Parkes - Labourer
Hellen Careless - 22 - Spinster - Dudley - John Careless (Dead) - Engineer
Witnesses: Rosanna Reeves, Stephen Reeves

Hellen is actually Eleanor, sister of Parthena Careless. http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ess-Family

I'm just getting around to entering the info I have.

BC Wench wrote:Thanks for looking pete, got info on this couple.

Marriage Details: 3 November 1850 - St Thomas' Dudley
James Parkes - 24 - Bachelor - Labourer - Windmill End - James Parkes - Labourer
Hellen Careless - 22 - Spinster - Dudley - John Careless (Dead) - Engineer
Witnesses: Rosanna Reeves, Stephen Reeves

Hellen is actually Eleanor, sister of Parthena Careless. http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ess-Family

I'm just getting around to entering the info I have.

I thought it was Eleanor but trying to connect William smith another way ?

Great pete, you just go for it, anything you can come up with to try and connect William Smith 1833 will be great

if poss (free gen) can anyone do a search for William & Parthena smith after 1853 see if there witnesses to any poss family marriage ?

I've added info for John & Selina (Evans) Smith here

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ith-Family

Looks like his mother is that Elizabeth Smith ....related to Hannah Smith sister in law?
I have put a hyperlink on to the Dunns and Hannah Smith
but is that Wm with Wm Smith and Elizabeth Smith in 1841?

Northern Lass wrote:Looks like his mother is that Elizabeth Smith ....related to Hannah Smith sister in law?
I have put a hyperlink on to the Dunns and Hannah Smith
but is that Wm with Wm Smith and Elizabeth Smith in 1841?

think in 1841 numerator botched the ages as he altered the other two ?

moving to brickwalls

Ahh wondered where it had got to lol

truebritmega wrote:Ahh wondered where it had got to lol

Think we are a bit stuck TBM

I think it is that Wm and Elizabeth Smith.....

Yup looks like it could be the end of my 'Smith' line

(Although....from another of my tree lines, my brazier....family line, i have another 'Smith' problem name that i might put a thread up for but she came from Kent originally, is this forum just for black country tho? (She lived, died etc in wolvo....)