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Jimmy wrote:Annie, how do you know it is Elizabeth Faulkner and John Johnson you are after.

Hi Jimmy

Elizabeth Faulkner is my great grandfathers sister and on the census she is named Elizabeth Johnson , Jon Johnson died quite young because Elizabeth remarried.

I stated 1863 for the marriage because that was the only marriage I could find and Elizabeth & Johns daughter was born about 1865, so I thought it could be them, now I know it was not, I am now trying to find another marriage that could match them.

Reply from GRO:-
Customer Account number 529134 Order number 1214227-1
Dear Ann
Thank you for your e-mail.
Marriage Certificate : John Johnson and Elizabeth Faulkner, 1863 M 6C 492
I am sorry, we should have advised we have not issued a certificate as the
man's surname is not Johnson.

Thank you for your help.

Annie

Perhaps the census details will help?

1851: Dudley Rd, West Bromwich, Staffs
William Faulkner 42 Head Nailer
Ann Faulkner 43 Wife b.Tipton, Staffs
Job Faulkner 15 Son Brickmaker
John Faulkner 10 Son
Edward Faulkner 6 Son
Sophia Faulkner 20 Dau
Elizabeth Faulkner 13 Dau
others born Rowley, Staffs

Found it!

Marriage 1859
FALKNER Elizabeth JOHNSON Henry Dudley, St Thomas 204/018/228

mallosa wrote:Found it!

Marriage 1859
FALKNER Elizabeth JOHNSON Henry Dudley, St Thomas 204/018/228

posted that earlier san think it might be worth a look at see if father is william she be 21 about right age but annie says first child born c 1865 but she might of had misscarriage or infant deaths before that ?

mallosa wrote:Perhaps the census details will help?

1851: Dudley Rd, West Bromwich, Staffs
William Faulkner 42 Head Nailer
Ann Faulkner 43 Wife b.Tipton, Staffs
Job Faulkner 15 Son Brickmaker
John Faulkner 10 Son
Edward Faulkner 6 Son
Sophia Faulkner 20 Dau
Elizabeth Faulkner 13 Dau
others born Rowley, Staffs

can anyone find these in 1861 if elizabeth not there then it might be the one married to henry if she is at home then were looking for another marriage ?

think this is job

1881 68 Halesowen St Rowley Regis, Stafford


Job FAULKNER W 45 Rowley Regis, Stafford,Nail Forger
Mary H. FAULKNER 20 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Forger
Clara FAULKNER 15 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Forger
Joseph FAULKNER 11 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar



two poss marriages

FAULKNER Job BRETTLE Fanny 1860 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/018/475

FAULKNER Job CROSS Phoebe 1857 Dudley, St Edmund West Midlands Dudley Register Office 201/003/73

peterd wrote:

mallosa wrote:Found it!

Marriage 1859
FALKNER Elizabeth JOHNSON Henry Dudley, St Thomas 204/018/228

posted that earlier san think it might be worth a look at see if father is william she be 21 about right age but annie says first child born c 1865 but she might of had misscarriage or infant deaths before that ?

Sorry Pete, didn't realise

Still looking for her in 1861............

Hi Mallosa & Peterd

Found him on the 1861 census :-

Henry Johnson
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Audley, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Norwood
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Southall
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Uxbridge
Sub-registration district: Hayes
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 122
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Hamblet 29
Job Faulkner 24
Henry Johnson 25
Edwin Faulkner 12

tMallosa thank you for the Marriage details also and all the other information you have helped me with. Elizabeth was with her mother on the 1861 and her sister Sophia Hamblet.
I think things are starting to fit together thanks to Mallosa, Northern Lass, Peterd and Jimmy.

Annie

FAULKNER Job BRETTLE Fanny 1860 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/018/475

My auntie Followed the above marriage and all the information was wrong and I had to scrap all that and start again, my Job Faulkner married Ann Victoria Edwards

My Faulkner's and Edward's family have been a right brickwall till I joined your forum so thank you all.

Annie

Oh well Annie, at least your back on track now
Let us know if you need anything else won't you?

Annie wrote:FAULKNER Job BRETTLE Fanny 1860 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/018/475

My auntie Followed the above marriage and all the information was wrong and I had to scrap all that and start again, my Job Faulkner married Ann Victoria Edwards

My Faulkner's and Edward's family have been a right brickwall till I joined your forum so thank you all.

Annie

so here your marriage


Marriages Dec 1860

Edwards Ann Victoria W Bromwich 6b 1002
Forknell Job W Bromwich 6b 1002
Hill Martha Ann W Bromwich 6b 1002
Slinn William W Bromwich 6b 1002

Marriage 1860
EDWARDS Ann V FORKNELL Job West Bromwich, All Saints 22/9/90

Annie any look ups you know I can help you there

Hi thank you again and I will be taking you up on the lookups Northern Lass I am sure before long, will now enter some more details on my lot on the Black Country tree.

Annie

Okedoke

is this now Completed if so will archive