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Re: Lilian Florence May Holloway
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:58 pm
by Northern Lass
Yes bro and sister......
CAROLINE PALMER
Christening: 12 SEP 1822 St Nicholas, Leicester, Leicester, England
Father: ANTHONY PALMER Family
Mother: JANE
Extracted birth
Re: Lilian Florence May Holloway
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:02 pm
by Northern Lass
So that marriage for John Holloway and Sarah Hall I think will say Henry as father.
So who is this John Holloway who married this Caroline?
Re: Lilian Florence May Holloway
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:11 pm
by linell
linell wrote:This is the only John aged 2 I could find in Halesowen 1851.
Gaunts Fold
Henry Holloway HD W 40 Labourer born Hagley
Mary Ann D 10 Halesowen
William Son 8 Halesowen
Jane D 6 Halesowen
Henry Son 4 Halesowen
John Son 2 Halesowen
Is this the family we are looking for NL? Linell.
Re: Lilian Florence May Holloway
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:09 pm
by Northern Lass
and this is interesting
Caroline is older than Sarah there
I believe that is Sarah Hall
and Caroline is a Caroline Hall
so is frederick the father ...bet he is
be interesting to see who the father is on marriage if any!
cant see a bapt for SArah
but can find birth regis that fit for a Hall not Palmer for the years
Births Mar 1854
Hall Sarah Stourbridge 6c 159
CAROLINE HALL Christening: 07 JUL 1852 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Mother: JEMIMA HALL Extracted birth
Births Mar 1852
Hall Caroline Stourbridge 6c 162
Births Mar 1858
Palmer Francis Frederick Stourbridge 6c 178
Re: Lilian Florence May Holloway
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:26 am
by mumbles
Noted below in your discussion and note on bcc by Jan " at George Moses Willetts :- This could be Sarah Ann Willetts who married John Holloway
Relationship for Harry Parsons is incorrect as he was not grandson of James and Ann Willetts or George & Ellen Willetts. He was son of Alfred Parsons born 1856 & Ann Adams. Alfred Parsons sister Ellen Parsons married George Willetts and thus Harry was nephew of George & Ellen.
James WILLETTS 71 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Ann WILLETTS 68 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
George WILLETTS Son 23 Hasbury, Worcester, Nail Maker
Ellen WILLETTS D In Law 22 Hasbury, Worcester, Nail Maker
Harry PARSONS GrandSon 2 Hasbury, Worcester,
Re: Lilian Florence May Holloway
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:57 am
by linell
Hi NL, I think that Henry Holloway descends from this family in B'ham Street Halesowen:-
1841 All Nailers all born County
Henry Holloway 45
Richard 12
Next Door
Richard Holloway 50
Phoebe (nee Tildesley) 45
Henry 25
Elizabeth 26
Sarah 14
Richard 10
Mary 7
Emma 2
I think that Henry and Richard are brothers, and that Henry born about 1810 is one of their sons?? Linell
Re: Lilian Florence May Holloway
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:36 am
by Northern Lass
mumbles wrote:Noted below in your discussion and note on bcc by Jan " at George Moses Willetts :- This could be Sarah Ann Willetts who married John Holloway
Relationship for Harry Parsons is incorrect as he was not grandson of James and Ann Willetts or George & Ellen Willetts. He was son of Alfred Parsons born 1856 & Ann Adams. Alfred Parsons sister Ellen Parsons married George Willetts and thus Harry was nephew of George & Ellen.
James WILLETTS 71 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Ann WILLETTS 68 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
George WILLETTS Son 23 Hasbury, Worcester, Nail Maker
Ellen WILLETTS D In Law 22 Hasbury, Worcester, Nail Maker
Harry PARSONS GrandSon 2 Hasbury, Worcester,
Dont think there is a problem them Mumbles
harry is I presume that Henry b 1880?
and nothing has been added for George and Ellen
Re: Lilian Florence May Holloway
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:40 am
by Northern Lass
linell wrote:Hi NL, I think that Henry Holloway descends from this family in B'ham Street Halesowen:-
1841 All Nailers all born County
Henry Holloway 45
Richard 12
Next Door
Richard Holloway 50
Phoebe (nee Tildesley) 45
Henry 25
Elizabeth 26
Sarah 14
Richard 10
Mary 7
Emma 2
I think that Henry and Richard are brothers, and that Henry born about 1810 is one of their sons?? Linell
I have had info from an o/s source that Henry is indeed the father of John who married Sarah Hall
henry did marry Caroline Harris
and I have updated the tree
Henry's father is a John......
Re: Lilian Florence May Holloway
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:44 am
by Northern Lass
Have done a load of look ups for this lot
and it is all checking out nicely!
I am going to post the George Willetts to Sarah Ann Willetts on a new thread to keep it clear and seperate
as think it is the same george...will explain later
Now this is where we are up to I have yet to add marriage info but the line is good
So Henry Holloway marries Caroline Harris
and his father si a John a Labourer
So can we find Henry Holloway and wife Caroline on the 1841 they married in 1838
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =143765605and can we find Henrys mother
and where is this father John in 1841 or 1851
Re: Lilian Florence May Holloway
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:12 am
by FarSide
def Holloway
1841
Garratts Fold, Halesowen
Henry Hattaway 30 - Labourer
Caroline Hattaway 20
Mary Ann Hattaway 5 Mo - y b in c
others n b in c
Re: Lilian Florence May Holloway
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:21 am
by Northern Lass
Brilliant FS!!
adding it now!!
Re: Lilian Florence May Holloway
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:26 am
by FarSide
Not sure about this one
1841
Little Lane, Worcester Street, Bromsgrove
John Hollaway 65 - Carpenter
Charlotte Hollaway 60
both b in c
Re: Lilian Florence May Holloway
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:29 am
by Northern Lass
FarSide wrote:Not sure about this one
1841
Little Lane, Worcester Street, Bromsgrove
John Hollaway 65 - Carpenter
Charlotte Hollaway 60
both b in c
I dont know sounds quite good the name Charlotte is there
John Holloway and Sarah Hall call their dau Charlotte
and Henry puts born Hagley on 1851
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagleyso out towards Bromsgrove area
could be
marriage might help?
Re: Lilian Florence May Holloway
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:33 am
by Northern Lass
also a bapt for Caroline Harris (who marries Henry)
mother is I think a Sarah
and then a marriage for George harris and Sarah?
?
Re: Lilian Florence May Holloway
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:37 am
by FarSide
1851
90
High Street, Bromsgrove
John Holloway 76 - Carpenter - b Worcester
Charlott Holloway 73 - b Freckenham