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Eliza would be Thomas wife on the 1841 census I believe

peterd wrote:1871 Mount Pleasent, Kingswiniford

James Dicken 54 healer ?
Eliz Dicken 51 healer ?
Wm Dicken 26 healer ?
Maryann Dicken 19 Kate hills
others Kingswiniford

This will be I believe

DICKENS William W MILLS Mary A Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/005/86

Rydawpark wrote:Eliza would be Thomas wife on the 1841 census I believe

Thomas didnt mar till dec 1841 so poss another child unless an eunmerator mistake

5 Jun 1849 St Thomas Dudley
Thomas CASWELL 30 B Farmer Dudley Father John Caswell --- ---?unreadable
Eliza BROOKS 36 S Dudley Father Edward Brooks Inn Keeper
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; Edward Hill / Elizabeth Hill

rockyfowler wrote:29 Aug 1841 St Thomas Dudley
John BROOKES O W Labourer Brierley Hill Parish of Kingswinford Father John Brookes (Dec) Labourer
Sylvia BROWN O S Brierley Hill Father John Brown Labourer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; John Brown / Susan Brown X

Just going thru this....................how do we know this one is son of John and Sarah?
their son is bapt 1823
this one above is a widow in 1841....

I think that is another JOhn

our JOhn bapt 1823 has father miner which is what John is on Thos brookes marriage

added some here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =270776292

The eliza on 1841 could be wife to be of Thomas Brookes..no r'ships so we dont know
if she is a dau so have left her off.

If you look on that marriage john father is dec so that is confirmed in the census 1841

Postby rockyfowler » Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:56 am
St Michael Brierley Hill

27 Mar 1814
Phoebe daur of John & Sarah BROOKES,Amblecote,Collier

28 Apr 1816
Thomas son of John & sarah BROOKES,Amblecote,Collier

1 Nov 1818
Eliza daur of John & sarah BROOKES,Amblecote,Miner

15 Jul 1821
Elizabeth daur of John & sarah BROOKES,Amblecote,Collier

11 May 1823
John son of John & sarah BROOKES,Amblecote,Collier

I was wondering about deaths. Can you guys look those up

BROOKES Thomas Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/051/272

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Record
Birth, Marriage & Death
Name:
Thomas Brookes
Birth:
abt 1816
Death:
Oct 1872 in Worcestershire, United Kingdom

Rydawpark wrote:I was wondering about deaths. Can you guys look those up

BROOKES Thomas Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/051/272

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Record
Birth, Marriage & Death
Name:
Thomas Brookes
Birth:
abt 1816
Death:
Oct 1872 in Worcestershire, United Kingdom

there might be a will for him ?

1871
BROOKS, Thomas Head M 56 1815 Formerly Clay Miner Staffordshire
BROOKS, Eliza Wife F 56 1815 Staffordshire
HEATHCOTE, Henrietta Boarder F 24 1847 Staffordshire
BROOKS, Amey Daughter F 26 1845 Staffordshire
BROOKS, Elizabeth Daughter F 18 1853 Staffordshire


Caladonia, Kingswinford

County: Worcestershire

That I had Rocky and might be in there. That is why I know he died inbetween 1871 and 1881 because I think this is his wife Eliza in 1881 and the Caledonia part makes sense. Plus all the dates work but could not find a marriage for Ann Basill is all but Anne Brookes was born 1851 per this census

1861. Thorns. Quarry Bank. census
Thomas Brookes 46. Clay Miner.
Eliza Brookes 42. Wednesbury.
Sarah Brookes 18.
William Brookes 15. Clay miner.
Henrietta Brookes 14.
Anne Brookes 10.
Elizabeth Brookes 8.
John T Brookes 9 Mo. Others born Kingswinford.

So is this Eliza and Anne in 1881 and who is Basill(is it Bisell)

Name:Eliza BrooksAge (Original):63Gender:FemaleBirth Year:1818Birthplace:Wednesbury, Staffordshire, EnglandRelationship to Head of Household:HeadMarital Status:WidowOccupation:Fire Clay PickerAddress:CaledoniaEvent Place:Kingswinford (Stafford), Worcestershire, EnglandDisability: Record Type:HouseholdGS Film number:1341694Affiliate Publication Number:RG11Piece/Folio:2895 / 133Page Number:26 HouseholdGenderAgeBirthplaceHeadEliza BrooksF63 Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England DaughterAnn BisallF30 Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England Grand DaughterLucy Ann BisallF7 Caledonia, Staffordshire, England

Can't find a marriage for an Ann Brookes to a Bissell, but there are a number of Bissell marriages to Ann with other surnames registered locally (West Mids BMD) - wonder if Ann was previously married...?
Could also not find an obvious marriage for a Lucy Ann Bissell anywhere, so no hope of finding her fathers name from there.
Do Ann and Lucy appear in later census?

Rydawpark wrote:I was wondering about deaths. Can you guys look those up

BROOKES Thomas Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/051/272

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Record
Birth, Marriage & Death
Name:
Thomas Brookes
Birth:
abt 1816
Death:
Oct 1872 in Worcestershire, United Kingdom

You would need to send for death and birth certificates from a registry office

what else do you need on this one?
or can we now archive it?