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Re: Awaiting Birth Certif from YvonneB .........Help please-
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:57 am
by Northern Lass
YvonneB wrote:Ok birth cert for the West Bromwich one
1st Dec 1908 47 Windmill Street - Gladys - Father Enoch Cartwright - Mother Hannah Gertrude Cartwright formerly Whitehouse - Occ of Father Ironworker - Informant H.G.Cartwright mother, 47,Windmill Street, Wednesbury - 11th Jan 1909
Yvonne
Oh darn! so not the correct one then is it.
so is the one you got this one in red is it that vol no and page no
poss births on free bmd...tbc
Births Mar 1909
Cartwright Gladys Stourbridge 6c 168
Cartwright Gladys W. Bromwich 6b 920 Cartwright Gladys May Dudley 6c 135
so which birth is Gladys?
really you could do with contacting Sandwell register office and saying father is a Joseph Cartwright do they have one that matches
Re: Awaiting Birth Certif from YvonneB .........Help please-
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:18 am
by Northern Lass
Actually you know it could well be this one again you could contact W'ton regis office
say you only want it if father is a Joseph
Births Jun 1909
Cartwright Gladys May Wolverhampton 6b 631
Re: Awaiting Birth Certif from YvonneB .........Help please-
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:45 pm
by YvonneB
Yes NL the one I got was the West Bromwich one as u have hilighted in red.
Yes was thinking of getting that wolverhampton one as Hubby says Willenhall was probably covered by W'Ton, is it the registry office I apply to or the archives as I might as well go pay a visit.
Re: Awaiting Birth Certif from YvonneB .........Help please-
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:28 am
by Northern Lass
YvonneB wrote:Yes NL the one I got was the West Bromwich one as u have hilighted in red.
Yes was thinking of getting that wolverhampton one as Hubby says Willenhall was probably covered by W'Ton, is it the registry office I apply to or the archives as I might as well go pay a visit.
Hi it is the Wolverhampton registry office
not sure if you have to order then collect it not sure if they will give it to you
if you just turn up...you would need to phone them.
I think they accept payment over phone but again check.
If you in Wolves drop in for cuppa! and share the info dying to crack this one.
Just been having a look to see if I can see anything re a bapt on my indexes and I can't see anything
nor that 1908 marriage to hopefully a lizzie Benton...might not even be correct marriage need mothers maiden name
then we can look again.
ps if we knew the church for marriage it can be looked up at archives free and would save a tenner
but we dont know church for the 1908 one
Re: Awaiting Birth Certif from YvonneB .........Help please-
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:11 am
by YvonneB
Hi NL
You are going to love this
23 Feb 1909 9, Cannon St Willenhall Gladys May Girl Father Joseph Cartwright Mother Elizabeth Cartwright Late Benton Formerly Mc Nally Ironworker Informant Joseph Cartwright father 9,Cannon St, Willenhall.
Have looked for the marriage and she was married to Samuel Benton in 1905 he died in 1907 and she married Joseph in 1908. The name Mc Nally is sometimes varied
Yvonne
Re: Awaiting Birth Certif from YvonneB .........Help please-
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:54 pm
by Northern Lass
YvonneB wrote:Hi NL
You are going to love this
23 Feb 1909 9, Cannon St Willenhall Gladys May Girl Father Joseph Cartwright Mother Elizabeth Cartwright Late Benton Formerly Mc Nally Ironworker Informant Joseph Cartwright father 9,Cannon St, Willenhall.
Have looked for the marriage and she was married to Samuel Benton in 1905 he died in 1907 and she married Joseph in 1908. The name Mc Nally is sometimes varied
Yvonne
Hi Yvonne so that is him then isnt it on the 1911?
1911. Back Of 170 Walsall Road, Willenhall.
Joseph Cartwright 38. Striker in factory.
Elizebeth Cartwright 38.
Gladys Cartwright 2.
John Thomason 30. Nephew. single Lockmaker (brass locks) b Willenhall
Mrs Hore 72. Boarder. Widow.
Married 3 years.I child born, still alive.
All born Willenhall.
poss????
Marriages Jun 1908
Benton Lizzie Wolverhampton 6b 1147
CARTWRIGHT Joseph Wolverhampton 6b 1147
Pearson Ethel Daisy Wolverhampton 6b 1147
SMITH Joseph Edgar Wolverhampton 6b 1147
can we post that marriage pls for her to Samuel Benton might have the certif info if we can find church
Re: Awaiting Birth Certif from YvonneB .........Help please-
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:07 pm
by Northern Lass
Need that 1908 marriage unfortunately Yvonne to see who his father is too

Re: Awaiting Birth Certif from YvonneB .........Help please-
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:20 pm
by YvonneB
Yes, go ahead and do what you need to do.
I will get 1908 marriage cert.
Is Samuel related to the John you found do you think

Edit
what do you mean post marriage to Samuel Benton

Re: Awaiting Birth Certif from YvonneB .........Help please-
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:23 pm
by Northern Lass
YvonneB wrote:Yes, go ahead and do what you need to do.
I will get 1908 marriage cert.
Is Samuel related to the John you found do you think

Which John cant remember which one you mean?

Re: Awaiting Birth Certif from YvonneB .........Help please-
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:34 pm
by YvonneB
I think it was an Elizabeth Oliver we thought had married a John Benton before she married Joseph, as Naomi Alma Oliver was a witness at Glady's and Cecil's (my grandparents) marriage. Sorry dont mean to confuse the issue or you.
Re: Awaiting Birth Certif from YvonneB .........Help please-
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:39 pm
by YvonneB
Is this what you wanted?
MAC ANALLY, Lizzie
Registration district: [?] Wolverhampton
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1905
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name Not available before 1912
Volume no: [?] 6B
Page no: [?] 619
MarriageFinderâ„¢: [?] Lizzie Mac Anally married one of the following people
Transcript
BEECH, Thomas
VIEW
BENTON, Samuel
VIEW
BLEWITT, Ada
Re: Awaiting Birth Certif from YvonneB .........Help please-
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:39 pm
by Northern Lass
YvonneB wrote:I think it was an Elizabeth Oliver we thought had married a John Benton before she married Joseph, as Naomi Alma Oliver was a witness at Glady's and Cecil's (my grandparents) marriage. Sorry dont mean to confuse the issue or you.
cant remember but Elizabeth Oliver marries Wm Lewis then an Albert Llowarch
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =812467111
Re: Awaiting Birth Certif from YvonneB .........Help please-
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:41 pm
by Northern Lass
YvonneB wrote:Is this what you wanted?
MAC ANALLY, Lizzie
Registration district: [?] Wolverhampton
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1905
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name Not available before 1912
Volume no: [?] 6B
Page no: [?] 619
MarriageFinderâ„¢: [?] Lizzie Mac Anally married one of the following people
Transcript
BEECH, Thomas
VIEW
BENTON, Samuel
VIEW
BLEWITT, Ada
Yes can someone look on IGI and free reg see if it is on there pls
I will look at my info for W'ton
Re: Awaiting Birth Certif from YvonneB .........Help please-
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:51 pm
by Northern Lass
cant see anything on IGI or free reg or the W'ton history indexes for that marriage
would need certif

Re: Awaiting Birth Certif from YvonneB .........Help please-
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:59 pm
by Northern Lass
did we ever find a likely Joseph cartwright on 1901?