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Hi all, don't know if this is any help or not, thought I would post it anyway, here's hoping:-

1851 Census Derby End
Thomas Willetts HD M 23 Horse Nail Maker Cradley Sch 144
Hannah Wife 23 Rowley
Joseph Son 5 Dudley
Mary Ann D 1 Rowley
Elisha Willetts HD M 45 Horse Nail Maker Rowley Sch 145
Elizabeth Wife 53 Old Swinford
Sarah D U 19 Dudley
Samuel Son 15 Dudley
John Son 13 Dudley
Edward Son 10 Dudley

Sch 497 Derby End 1851
Mary Cole HD Wid 60 Butcher Rowley
Eli Willetts Servant 19 Dudley (at a guess this Eli could belong to the family above?)

Northern Lass wrote:

FarSide wrote:What do you think about this one.. I see who I think maybe this Hannah on the 51 a Widow but no Thomas

Submitted
ELI ZEHI WILLETTS
Spouse: HANNAH OR MRS WILLETTS
Marriage: About 1830 Dudley

this now looks quite good


ELI ZEHI WILLETTS Birth: About 1805 Of Dudley,Worscestershire,
Record sub

are Eli and Sarah bro and sis....and so thomas calls one of his kids after his uncle Eli?

all Extracted

1. KEZIA WILLETTS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 16 SEP 1832 Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Father: ELI SHAPHEL WILLETTS
Mother: HANNAH

2. OLIVE WILLETS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 21 MAR 1830 Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Father: ELI WILLETS
Mother: HANNAH

3. TAMAR WILLETS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 20 JUN 1836 Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Father: ELI ZIPHAN WILLETS
Mother: HANNAH

4. EDWARD WILLETTS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 09 APR 1826 Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Father: ELI SHAFIELD WILLETTS
Mother: MARY

5. ELI ZIPHAN WILLETTS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 28 DEC 1834 Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Father: ELI ZIPHAN WILLETTS
Mother: HANNAH

2 Stephen's..
1. STEPHEN ZEPHI WILLETS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 24 MAR 1839 Cradley, Worcester, England
Father: ELI ZEPHI WILLETS
Mother: HANNAH

2. STEPHEN ZEPHI WILLETTS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 24 MAR 1831 Dudley, Worcester, England
Father: ELI ZEHI WILLETTS Family
Mother: HANNAH OR MRS WILLETTS


This is the family above on the census, no Eli b abt 1826, I wonder if Eli Ziphan christened 1834 is our Eli, dates are out tho..
1841
Long Town, Rowley
Eli Willits 40 - Chain m
Hannah Willits 45
Mary Willits 15
Edward Willits 15
Keziah Willits 9
James Willits 5
Stephen Willits 2
all b in c

1851
87
Lomey Town, Rowley
Eli Willitts 52
Hannah Willitts 56
Kesiah Willitts 18
Tamer Willitts 13
Stephen Willitts 12 - Trace maker
all b Rowley, others Chainmakers

I'll add these to BCC..

There's this one, could Eli b abt 1826 be Elias?

1841
Primrose Hill, Dudley
Elias Willitts 20 - Bricklayer

living with this family
John Crannage 42 - Lab
Ann Crannage 35
William Crannage 17
Sarah Crannage 15
Jane Crannage 10
all b in c

Extracted
JOHN CRANNIDGE
Spouse: ANN WILLETTS
Marriage: 09 JUN 1823 Saint Thomas, Dudley

Extracted
ELIAS WILLETTS
Christening: 04 AUG 1816 Saint Thomas, Dudley
Mother: SARAH WILLETTS

Might explain the age when Sarah married William Johnson..

Pete
sarah would be about 33 when married if she 68 in 61 and at 33 proberly married previous so maide name wouldnt be willetts ?

NL
I have looked up that marriage in the Clent book and Sarah Willetts is a Spinster so she wasnt married before.

In 1841 William is with Sarah and Thomas and a James aged 20.

FS I think you may have somat there

Primrose hill is ringing a bell think it might be netherton ish area....someone on here will know.

but it is all there isnt it
bricklayer!
sarah willetts

1841
WILLITS * Elias ROSE Harriet Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/004/167

and there was this one....

1851 ...forget where now
a Harriet Willetts b 1819
Joseph Willetts age 6 and
Thomas Willetts age 4
Could that be our Thomas?

can anyone find that census ...cos I am on a diff comp at the mo.....

1851
74
New Town, Dudley
Harriet Willetts 32 - Washer woman - b Gorsty Hill
Mary Ann Willetts 8 - b Gorsty Hill
Joseph Willetts 6 - b Garratt Lane
Thomas Willetts 4 - b New Town

and on the 61

1861
55
Bowling Green, Dudley
Sarah Johnson 68 - Widow
Joseph Willets 16 - Miner - grandson
Thomas Willets 14 - grandson
all b Rowley

lookup on the Elias to Harriet marriage?

FarSide wrote:lookup on the Elias to Harriet marriage?

Yes deffo...I think this has cracked it FS well done.....

that would make sense wouldnt it
in 1871 Joseph Willetts is a nephew....cos Thomas Johnson son of Sarah Johnson nee Willetts and Elias Willetts are half bros
Thomas's son named after Elias
it all looks good!

1871
22 Bowling Green, Dudley
Thomas Johnson 43 - nailmaker
Elizabeth Johnson 42
Eli Johnson 20
Luke Johnson 17
Sarah Ann Johnson 14
Simeon Johnson 9
Albert Johnson 6
Ellen Johnson 3
Sarah Johnson 79 - Boarder - Widow
George Johnson 23
Joseph Willetts 26 - nephew - b New Town
William Crock 17 - nephew
others b Bowling Green

Harriett was a Widow on the 51
Poss death
Jun 1847
Willetts Eli Dudley 18 23[83]

I'll add these over the next couple of days...

FarSide wrote:I'll add these over the next couple of days...

Brilliant!
I think that is the correct lot!
Mother Sarah Willetts....father unknown= Elias(Eli) Willetts bricklayer/mason

marries Harriett rose 1841
3 kids as on census in 1851
he dies 1847
she must die?

then they are living in 61 with g.ma Sarah
Thomas marries
and Joseph bro is with g.ma and step uncle in 71

Yes please FS get it all on ....it all fits ....
death of Harriet would be good!

and please can you stick a link when you done...
I will do the look up

Just flaggin this to see if you need any help adding these FS cos if you do just holla!
I will help you if you want

I'm right with them, probably do the bulk on Friday night.. relaxed with a lovely drink in my hand..

Ok shall I leave it here rather than archive up to you!
and thanks FS