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TWG1947 wrote:Looks interesting, do we have a date for the death of his first wife Sarah nee Guest.

I couldn't see one on RR disc

Glad you let me know that, I was of to Smethwick this week to try to find it.

It's this Thomas who could be the father of the Benjamin who was transport to Tasmania in 1846.
Thomas had two other sons, Samuel born abt 1827 and Thomas born abt 1833.
It could well be that Thomas's first wife is the mother of two or all three of these children.
Samuel, with his wife and children immgrated to Tasmania in 1863 on the ship the 'Great Tasmanian' and it's thought worked with Benjamin in his blacksmiths shop.
One of Samuels children was named James, after Samuels uncle, and in a court case in Tasmania 'James' is named as Benjamin's 'nephew'.

Samuels family:-
Samuel Garratt, age 22, bachelor, chain maker, Dudley Wood,Thomas Garratt, chain maker.
Elizabeth Priest, age 19, spinster, Dudley Wood, Richard Priest, engineer.
After banns, both made their marks
Witnesses: James Garratt, Elizabeth Garratt.

It may be worth someone else checking the RR Disc

can anyone please check for a Sarah Garratt
death before 1841
Marries in 1825 not on 1841
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =519823101

TWG how do you know that that Samuel is son of Thomas
other than the wits being possibly Uncle and Aunt to him

is there a bapt?

IGI Batch No. C064941

Samuel Garret
Bapt:13 May 1833
Cradley, Worcester
Parents: Thomas Garret
& Sarah

Note: He was bapt the same day as his brother Thomas.

Is this a dau?

ROSANNAH MATILDA GARRATT
Christening: 03 APR 1831 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: THOMAS GARRATT
Mother: SARAH Extracted

or another thomas and sarah?

TWG1947 wrote:Thomas Garratt bapt 1803, son of Samuel bapt 1778.
Thomas married Sarah Guest 1825, remarried an Ann or Hannah date unknown.
Children maybe Benjamin 1825, Samuel 1827, Sarah date unknown.
Anybody help with these.

So is it just Benjamin now?

No bapt for Benjamin?

What info do you have on him?
is he on Bcc?

and a death if anyone can look for a Sarah Garratt death betw 1825-1841

MarkCDodd wrote:Naughty boy...

Convicted 02/01/1843 for Larceny and given 1 month jail and a whipping.

Convicted 01/07/1844 for Laceny by Servant. Prior conviction mentioned. 6 months jail and more whipping.

Convicted 17/07/1846 of Robbery in company whilst armed. Prior convictions noted. 15 years holiday in Australia.

So this could be Benjamin
and he marries in 1869

the Benjamin with father Shelagh is discounted as he marries here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =671609461

MarkCDodd wrote:Bit of a cradle snatcher.....

Digger - Tasmanian Pioneer Index 1803-1899

Surname: GARRETT
Given Names: BENJAMIN
Event: Marriage
Father/Spouse Surname: MORRIS
Mother/Spouse Given Names: MARIA
Day: 25
Month: 1
Year: 1869
Age: 35
Sex: M
Spouse Age: 20
Spouse Sex: F
Registration Place: WESTBURY
Registration Number: 639/1869
Reference: RGD 37

any more info on this marriage?

Hannah Maria Morris
Born 1841,
Died 26.11,1905 at Westbury Reg/No. 0835, buried with Benjamin at Westbury Cemetery.
Date as per gravestone.

Benjamin and Hannah Maria"™s Children:
1. Albert Stephen, known as Steve. A Blacksmith at Launceston and then again in Hobart.
Born 5.4.1870, at Exton, Westbury, Tasmania.
Died 20.5.1954, at Hobart, Tasmania, buried at Cornelian Bay Cemetery in the Roman Catholic Section.
Married Maryann White in 1906 at Launceston, Tasmania.
Australian Marriage Index 1788 - 1950 Page No. 0861.
Adopted a son from Maryann White.
2. Isabella Edith
Born 8.10.1871, at Westbury.
Married Charles Henry Masters in 1897 at Westbury.
Born 1867, at Westbury,
Died 20.10.1916, at Deloraine, Tasmania age 49.
Tamiot Records "Tombstone & Memorial Inscriptions of Tasmania 2nd Edition 1999
Children:
1. Alice Maud Masters Born 1897, at Ringaroolma, Tasmania.
2. Benjamin Roy Masters Born 13.10.1899, at Westbury, Tasmania.
3.Hannah Annie Maria
Born 3.8.1873, at Westbury, Tasmania.
Married David James Bissett on 26.10.1895, Tasmania.
Born 24.9.1878, Emu Bay, Tasmania. Farmer of Chudleigh, Tasmania.
Electoral Year 1914, at Wilmot,Kentish, Tasmania.
Children:
1.Violet Annie Edith Garrett Bissett, Born 1896, Deloraine, Tasmania Ref/No. 28060
2.Stephen David Garret Bissett, Born 1898, Deloraine, Tasmania Ref/No. 28061
4. Emily Maud Garratt,
Born 16.12.1878, at Westbury, Tasmania.
Died 6.4.1910, age 31 years, at Zeehan, buried Zeehan Old General Cemetery, Burnie, Tasmania.
Married James Gordon Martin 26.5.1906, Tasmania. Born Invergill, N.Z.
N.B. on the Cemetery records there is a daughter Kiaora Maud listed as well and it states
"2 here". Ancestry Tombstone * Memorial Inscriptions of Tasmania, Tamiot Records.

Northern Lass wrote:

MarkCDodd wrote:Bit of a cradle snatcher.....

Digger - Tasmanian Pioneer Index 1803-1899

Surname: GARRETT
Given Names: BENJAMIN
Event: Marriage
Father/Spouse Surname: MORRIS
Mother/Spouse Given Names: MARIA
Day: 25
Month: 1
Year: 1869
Age: 35
Sex: M
Spouse Age: 20
Spouse Sex: F
Registration Place: WESTBURY
Registration Number: 639/1869
Reference: RGD 37

any more info on this marriage?

that marriage should give fathers name
do you have it twg?

Sorry no.

From Benjamin's criminal records in Tasmania his family is listed as:

M (or W-illegible, wife or mother) Eliza

F (father) Thomas

B (brother) Samuel & Thom

NL don't know if this helps but there is a burial for a Sarah Garratt aged 25 May 13th 1833 Cradley.

Linell.

Looks like Benjamin could be son of Thomas then
and that death Linell has found looks interesting.

going to move this to Brickwalls to plug away at
hopefully we can get some more on this

might be worth that burial being looked up if you want to add it or maybe if you are
off to dudley look it up