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Re: Samuel Harvey b 1838

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:51 pm
by Jimmy
Looks like it could be Harvey on image,
1841. Langley Green, Oldbury, Shropshire.
Samuel Henry 65. Coal miner.
Rosepamiah Henry 65.
James Henry 20. Coal miner.

Same house,
James Hurvey 14. Coal miner.

All b.i.c.

Re: Samuel Harvey b 1838

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:52 am
by mallosa
added most of it to BCC - here

will finish off tomorrow

Re: Samuel Harvey b 1838------Mally adding to BCC

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:28 pm
by westbromval
sarah was not born in 1869 in oldbury she was bron in langley in 1859 she is on the 1881 cenus with the right age you have all my family names with the wronge dates off briths and deaths

Re: Samuel Harvey b 1838------Mally adding to BCC

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:08 pm
by Northern Lass
westbromval wrote:sarah was not born in 1869 in oldbury she was bron in langley in 1859 she is on the 1881 cenus with the right age you have all my family names with the wronge dates off briths and deaths


Do you have the birth certif info you can post?
or the birth indexes?

So we can take a look at what you think is incorrect
need proof and documentation.

we put an about date which covers a year or two either side.

But if you have the correct info do post and we can take a look at the certifs you have

Re: Samuel Harvey b 1838------Mally adding to BCC

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:21 pm
by rockyfowler
11 Nov 1839 St Martins (Pepperbox) Tipton
Henry HARVEY M B Miner Tipton (Oldbury crossed out) Father Saml Harvey Miner
Mary Ann DARBY M S Tipton Father Edward Darby Miner
After Banns The x Of Both
Wit; Joseph Matthew Ann Darby X

Re: Samuel Harvey b 1838

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:26 pm
by peterd
1851: Langley Green, Oldbury, Worc
Henry Harvey 28 Coalminer
Mary Harvey 26 born Tipton
Samuel Harvey 9
William Harvey 6
Edward Harvey 3
Mary Ann Harvey 1


1861: Sycamore Lane, Oldbury, Staffs
Henry Harvey 42 Head Coalminer Oldbury
Mary Ann Harvey 41 Wife Tipton
Samuel Harvey 19 Son Coalminer Langley
William Harvey 16 Son Coalminer Langley
Edward Harvey 14 Son Coalminer Langley
Mary Ann Harvey 9 Dau Langley
Emma Harvey 6 Dau Langley
Phebe Harvey 5 Dau Langley
Ellen Harvey 2 Dau Langley
Thomas Harvey 1 Son Langley



1871: Sycamore Lane, Oldbury
Henry Harvey 53 Head Miner
Mary Harvey 53 Wife Tipton
Edward Harvey Son 24 Miner
Emma Harvey 17 Dau U Brickmaker
Pheobe Harvey 15 Dau Brickmaker
Ellen Harvey 12 Dau Brickmaker
Thomas Harvey 10 Son
Nancy Harvey 8 Dau
Sarah Harvey 2 Dau
Mary Ann Harvey 13 Dau Brickmaker
(others born Oldbury)



mallosa wrote:1881: Clay Lane, Oldbury
Henry Harvey 63 Head Oldbury, Worc
Mary A. Harvey 62 Wife Tipton
Thomas Harvey 20 Son Labourer Langley
Sarah Harvey 22 Dau Langley



if sarah correct where is she in 1861 ellen was born 1859 ? sarah acording to the 1871 is 2 ?

Re: Samuel Harvey b 1838------Mally adding to BCC

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:33 pm
by Northern Lass
1858
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
HARVEY Ellen Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/25/39


1868
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
HARVEY Sarah Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/41/294

Re: Samuel Harvey b 1838------Mally adding to BCC

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:36 pm
by peterd
westbromval wrote:sarah was not born in 1869 in oldbury she was bron in langley in 1859 she is on the 1881 cenus with the right age you have all my family names with the wronge dates off briths and deaths


wonder if this is her marriage ?

HARVEY Sarah HARTLAND Joseph 1882 Lower Gornal, St James West Midlands Dudley Register Office 215/005/424



think you may need to recheck you research west brom as it looks like 1868 born so could be 1869 on census

Re: Samuel Harvey b 1838------Mally adding to BCC

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:53 pm
by rockyfowler
2 Jun 1879 St Giles Rowley Regis
William SAUNDERS 20 B Labourer Mincing Lane Father George Saunders Burner
Ellen HARVEY 19 S Mincing Lane Father Henry Harvey Miner
After Banns William Signed The X Of Ellen
Wit; William James X Elizabeth Harvey X

Re: Samuel Harvey b 1838------Mally adding to BCC

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:59 pm
by rockyfowler
1881
SANDERS, William Head Married M 22 1859 Carter
Oldbury
Worcestershire
SANDERS, Ellen Wife Married F 21 1860
Oldbury
Worcestershire
SANDERS, William Son Single M 0 1881
Oldbury
Worcestershire
SANDERS, Albert Brother Single M 13 1868 Scholar
Oldbury
Worcestershire

45, Oldbury, Eel St, Oldbury (Worcs) County:
Staffordshire

Re: Samuel Harvey b 1838------Mally adding to BCC

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:10 pm
by westbromval
you have got the wronge family on the 1871 cenus

Re: Samuel Harvey b 1838------Mally adding to BCC

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:12 pm
by westbromval
and you nead to recheck your researh

Re: Samuel Harvey b 1838------Mally adding to BCC

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:24 pm
by Northern Lass
westbromval wrote:and you nead to recheck your researh



westbromval wrote:you have got the wronge family on the 1871 cenus


Perhaps you might like to explain why the 1871 is incorrect
then we can see exactly what you are saying


this one

1861: Sycamore Lane, Oldbury, Staffs
Henry Harvey 42 Head Coalminer Oldbury
Mary Ann Harvey 41 Wife Tipton
Samuel Harvey 19 Son Coalminer Langley
William Harvey 16 Son Coalminer Langley
Edward Harvey 14 Son Coalminer Langley
Mary Ann Harvey 9 Dau Langley
Emma Harvey 6 Dau Langley
Phebe Harvey 5 Dau Langley
Ellen Harvey 2 Dau Langley
Thomas Harvey 1 Son Langley

looks the same family as this one

(Surname not very clear....transcribed as Harry)
1871: Sycamore Lane, Oldbury
Henry Harvey 53 Head Miner
Mary Harvey 53 Wife Tipton
Edward Harvey Son 24 Miner
Emma Harvey 17 Dau U Brickmaker
Pheobe Harvey 15 Dau Brickmaker
Ellen Harvey 12 Dau Brickmaker
Thomas Harvey 10 Son
Nancy Harvey 8 Dau
Sarah Harvey 2 Dau
Mary Ann Harvey 13 Dau Brickmaker
(others born Oldbury)

all looks same family to me
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=80297397

you need to provide more detail

Re: Samuel Harvey b 1838------Mally adding to BCC

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:38 pm
by peterd
westbromval wrote:and you nead to recheck your researh



1871 same address as the 1861 and all the names match ?

Re: Samuel Harvey b 1838------Mally adding to BCC

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:30 pm
by peterd
well the 1891 census prove samuel mother was mary as she with him