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Re: Louisa Westwood ................who is she!

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1851
Wordsley
Benjamin Skidmore 48 glass cutter
Louisa ditto wife 42 born Kingswinford

see here http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ore-Family

Possible death for Benjamin
Mar qtr Benjamin Skidmore Stourbridge

Dec qtr 1853
Joseph Westwood married Louisa Skidmore Stourbridge Reg office

Dec qtr 1853
John Barnsley m Eliza Beddow Sedgley All Saints 216/008/159 I tried to tie this in but I can't. Only marriage for John Barnsley that I can find


1861
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Joseph Westwood 62
Louisa Westwood wife 49

1861. Amblecote Bank, Kingswinford.
Joseph Skidmore 50. Glass maker. Dudley.
Ellen Skidmore 44. Wife. Dewsbury, Yorkshire.
Susan Kinnas 60. Mother-in-Law.
Eliza A Kinnas 18. Sister-in-Law
Sarah A Barnsley 7. Visitor. Rowley Regis.

1861
Reddall Hill
Joseph Billingham 54
Kitty ditto 54
Harriet ditto dau 20
Jabez ditto 18
Edward ditto bro wid 46
Nancy Barnsley 88 m in law
John Barnsley head 30
Priscilla ditto wife 29
William ditto 10
Eliza ditto 6
Samuel ditto 2
Harry ditto 1m

Ignore these bits, it had been mistranscribed


see here http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ham-Family
but I think Kitty died
Kitty Billingham 1863 Rowley Regis RR/18/446
and Joseph remarried

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1864.
BILLINGHAM Joseph. WESTWOOD Louisa. Dudley Register Office. Dudley Register Office. DRO/004/130.


1871. Union St, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Billingham 64. Chain manufacturer.
Louisa Billingham 62.
Sarah Stover 17. Servant.

All born Kingswinford.

1881.
Louisa BILLINGHAM. Head. W. 79. Kingswinford, Stafford.
Susannah KANNAR. Sister In Law. W. 78. Dudley, Worcester.

Brettell Lane Amblecote.
Amblecote, Stafford.

Deaths Jun 1882.
BILLINGHAM Louisa. 81. Stourbridge. 6c. 83.

Which would make Louisa Beddard-Skidmore-Westwood-Billingham.
In the 1881 she is with her "sister in law" age 78, she might be Susannah Kenna age 42 in 1851, widow of Thomas Skidmore.
With Thomas having a brother Joseph b 1811 and Benjamin b 1803 (who married Louisa).

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Jimmy wrote:Possible, age is out a bit.

1851. Amblecoat Bank, Kingswinford.
Joseph Skidmore 40. Head, Mar. Flint glass blower. Dudley.
Susannah Kenna 42. Sister, Widow. Dudley.
Eliza Ann Kenna 8. Dau in law.
Elizabeth Kenna 6. Dau in law.


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1848.
SKIDMORE Susan. KENNAR Thomas. Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office. 204/009/131.


So Louisa would be sister in law to this Joseph, who would be Benjamins brother.
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I'm thinking...
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Jimmy wrote:
Jimmy wrote:Possible, age is out a bit.

1851. Amblecoat Bank, Kingswinford.
Joseph Skidmore 40. Head, Mar. Flint glass blower. Dudley.
Susannah Kenna 42. Sister, Widow. Dudley.
Eliza Ann Kenna 8. Dau in law.
Elizabeth Kenna 6. Dau in law.


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1848.
SKIDMORE Susan. KENNAR Thomas. Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office. 204/009/131.


So Louisa would be sister in law to this Joseph, who would be Benjamins brother.


Yes. Only it is horribly complicated isn't it?
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Re: Louisa Westwood ................who is she!

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started to connect

but got bit confused
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =633115502

How does it go then

Louisa marries Benjamin Skidmore ....he dies 1853

She marries Joseph Westwood in 1854.........he dies

She then marries Joseph Billingham in 1864......he dies

she is a widow in 1881 with this Susan

So Benjamin and Joseph Skidmore are brothers

is there a bapt for Benjamin?


Confused on the susan bit

is she not a sister to Joseph and Benjamin?
and who is Ellen ?

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Northern Lass wrote:
is she not a sister to Joseph and Benjamin?
and who is Ellen ? :shock:


It looks like Susannah is sister to Joseph, but I can't see a Benjamin with same parents, but I don't know who Ellen is.

SUSANNA SKIDMORE.
Christening, 06 JUL 1806. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

JOSEPH SKIDMORE.
Christening, 17 JUL 1808. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
Parents to both,
THOMAS SKIDMORE.
ELIZTH.
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Here is what we have on the Joseph Skidmore bit

1851. Amblecoat Bank, Kingswinford.
Joseph Skidmore 40. Head, Mar. Flint glass blower. Dudley.
Susannah Kenna 42. Sister, Widow. Dudley.
Eliza Ann Kenna 8. Dau in law.
Elizabeth Kenna 6. Dau in law.


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1848.
SKIDMORE Susan. KENNAR Thomas. Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office. 204/009/131. (Down for look-up)

SUSANNA SKIDMORE.
Christening, 06 JUL 1806. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

JOSEPH SKIDMORE.
Christening, 17 JUL 1808. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents: to both,
THOMAS SKIDMORE.
ELIZTH.

1861. Amblecote Bank, Kingswinford.
Joseph Skidmore 50. Glass maker. Dudley.
Ellen Skidmore 44. Wife. Dewsbury, Yorkshire.
Susan Kinnas 60. Mother-in-Law.
Eliza A Kinnas 18. Sister-in-Law
Sarah A Barnsley 7. Visitor. Rowley Regis.



Ellen Skidmore.
[Ellen Kinnas] Someone as added this Postem.
Age: 44.
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817.
Relation: Wife.
Spouse's Name: Joseph Skidmore.
Mother's name: Susan Kinnas.
Where born: Dewsbury, Yorkshire.
Civil parish: Kingswinford.
Ecclesiastical parish: Quarry Bank.
County/Island: Staffordshire.

1871. Amblecote Bank, Kingswinford.
Joseph Skidmore 59. Glass maker unemployed. Woodside.
Ellen Skidmore 49. Dewsbury, Yorkshire.
Susan Ann Skidmore 65. Unm, Sister. Woodside.

1881.
Louisa BILLINGHAM. Head. W. 79. Kingswinford, Stafford.
Susannah KANNAR. Sister In Law. W. 78. Dudley, Worcester.
Brettell Lane Amblecote.
Amblecote, Stafford.

Name: Susannah Kennar.
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800.
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1889.
Age at Death: 89.
Registration district: Stourbridge.
Inferred County: Worcestershire.
Volume: 6c.
Page: 87.


Ellen's birth is consistent as Dewsbury and I think that post-it is probably a load of rubbish. I think this is the marriage for Joseph

Joseph Skidmore and Ellen Oldroyd 25th Mar 1837 Dewsbury, Yorkshire (extracted, IGI)
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so Joseph Skidmore marries Ellen

Benjamin marries Louisa

and Susan marries thomas kennar

and Joseph, Benjamin and Susan are all sibs?

with father Thomas?

but do we have a bapt for Benjamin pls?

and on marriage to Thomas Kennar father for susan is thomas skidmore miner and she puts age 31...did she lie?
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:shock: :?

I can't find a baptism for Benjamin which would give him same parents as Susannah and Joseph.
I suggest you slow down a bit on the adding rather than get it in wrong.
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1841. Kingswinford.
Benjamin Skidmore 35. Glass Cutter.
Luisa Skidmore 30.
Francis Beddard 70. Bricklayer.

All born in County.
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gardener wrote:Ellen's birth is consistent as Dewsbury and I think that post-it is probably a load of rubbish. I think this is the marriage for Joseph

Joseph Skidmore and Ellen Oldroyd 25th Mar 1837 Dewsbury, Yorkshire (extracted, IGI)


Extracted.
ELENOR OLDROYD.
Birth: 06 MAY 1819.
Christening, 06 JUN 1819. High Chapel Townend-Wesleyan, Dewsbury, Yorkshire
Parents:
THOMAS OLDROYD.
OLIVIA.
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Deaths Jun 1849.
Kennar Thomas. Stourbridge. 18. 356.


Thomas Kennar.
Burial Date: 27 May 1849.
Burial Place: Brierley Hill, Stafford.
Age: 31.
Birth Date: 1818.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B03707-5.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1470586.
Reference Number: p196 it1561.
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I give up!

It was all so promising, but with Benjamin Skidmore from Kingswinford and Susannah and Joseph baptised at Dudley, it just doesn't quite gel.
The witnesses for the Louisa Beddard/Benjamin Skidmore were Thos Newel and Mary Ann Hill which does not help a bit.

But some of what we have is right.
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This is closest I can see,

Benjn. Skidmore.
Baptism/Christening Date: 29 Sep 1805.
Baptism/Christening Place: Brierley Hill, Stafford.
Father's Name: John Skidmore.
Mother's Name: Joanna Skidmore.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03015-4.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1470582.
Reference Number: item 2.
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Jimmy wrote:West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1848.
SKIDMORE Susan. KENNAR Thomas. Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office. 204/009/131.


Thanks RF for look up,

Saint Thomas, Dudley. 24 Dec. 1848.
Thomas Kennar. 29. Widower. Glassmaker. Dudley. Michael Kennar. Glassmaker.
Susan Skidmore. 31. Spinster. Dudley. Thomas Skidmore. Miner.

Thomas signed, Susan made her Mark.

Witnesses, Sarah Hingley, and Joseph Skidmore.
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